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Old 04-09-2006, 09:19 PM   #1
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i was just wondering what you's think would be quicker down the 1/4 mile

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Old 04-09-2006, 09:25 PM   #2
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i should have added, 4.0L auto BA and 5L auto VP
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Old 04-09-2006, 09:26 PM   #3
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VP becasue of it gearing and weight advantage.
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i should have been more clear, 4.0L auto BA and 5L auto VP
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Old 04-09-2006, 09:27 PM   #5
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damn computer playing games with me. sorry for the double post
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Old 04-09-2006, 09:28 PM   #6
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VP becasue of it gearing and weight advantage.
that's pretty much what i was thinking.
but wheel spin could be an issue
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My V6 commo ran 15.9 at WSID and i raced a VR SS auto and that ran 15.6. a couple times. So i would think the ford could beat a VP for sure..

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VP's are lighter than VR's and they don't have that **** electronic trans, it's all hydraulic,
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Old 04-09-2006, 10:32 PM   #9
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yea i would say the ba cause it would get the power down better and i am not sure so dont give it to me if im wrong but didnt the vp have the 165kw engine in it??? and i would say it would probably break down to out:
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Old 04-09-2006, 10:41 PM   #10
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BA Specs:
- 182kw
- 380Nm
- 0-100 / 7.8 sec
- 400m / 15.9 sec
- 1700kg

VP Spec:
- 165kw
- 385Nm
- 0-100 / 7.2 sec
- 400m / 15.1 sec
- 1450kg
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Old 04-09-2006, 10:53 PM   #11
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What's the use of starting a new thread and asking the question if you had the specs.

What a waste this thread is.
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i just found some, but who knows if they're right, i found heaps of different ones and used the average ones,
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Old 04-09-2006, 11:30 PM   #13
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Specs don't mean anything, BA will win it, most vp's are probably tired, add, a second or two to that 1/4 mile time for the vp
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Old 05-09-2006, 12:15 AM   #14
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i would say the BA would be a bit faster - dad once had the 165kw V8 Statesman and his works EBII Gli wagon 4.0 could keep up with it - he and my mum dragged each other at the lights - it was a draw i think (back when 165kw seemed like a fair bit of power) now a 3L diesel will put out more than that.
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Where is SlickHolden when you need him. This is a thread made for him.
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i went in an XT the other night my gosh it was slow
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I have a VN SS a bit quicker than a VP but fairly similar. And I had a young bloke try and race me in a BA 5.4 Ghia. Needless to say he didn't stand a chance. Weight is the key issue I launched with 1 car length advantage in 20 metres. And kept pulling away from there on. I stoped at 100k's but the hero in the Ghia kept going.
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I have a VN SS a bit quicker than a VP but fairly similar. And I had a young bloke try and race me in a BA 5.4 Ghia. Needless to say he didn't stand a chance. Weight is the key issue I launched with 1 car length advantage in 20 metres. And kept pulling away from there on. I stoped at 100k's but the hero in the Ghia kept going.
That really came down to the driver by the sounds of it
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BA Specs:
- 182kw
- 380Nm
- 0-100 / 7.8 sec
- 400m / 15.9 sec
- 1700kg

VP Spec:
- 165kw
- 385Nm
- 0-100 / 7.2 sec
- 400m / 15.1 sec
- 1450kg

i wouldnt be going of of them times man cause that sounds like the most healthiest vp ever i owned a el gli before i got my ute and it would stay with vn and vp ss's from the lights and a stock ba xt is just about as quick as the na xr6 ba cause there is not much difference between them at all
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i wouldnt be going of of them times man cause that sounds like the most healthiest vp ever i owned a el gli before i got my ute and it would stay with vn and vp ss's from the lights and a stock ba xt is just about as quick as the na xr6 ba cause there is not much difference between them at all
I think you will find that the XT is slightly quicker than the XR6 due to less weight, sad isnt it.

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I think you will find that the XT is slightly quicker than the XR6 due to less weight, sad isnt it.

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even considering the lower diff ratio in the xr6?
assuming we are talking auto's here
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yea that could be the case hey but i would say that it would be just as quick if not quicker then a tired old vp ss
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yea that could be the case hey but i would say that it would be just as quick if not quicker then a tired old vp ss
Your probably right, either way does not really matter, they are pretty slow cars anyway, drive a XT for work everyday.

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the xt is a 6 cylinda and the vp is it a v8? because if so why would you be comparing them the vp is lighter with 2 extra cylindas? in saying that though i would think the xt would get power down better
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BA XT would absolutley destroy a VP V8.

Its more powerful, the chassis is far superior, so therefore better power down....

Not to mention that the BA is a relatively new car, whereas the VP is old, so it had less power and torque to begin with, and that 12-15 year old car won't have all of its kiloWatts and Newton metres anymore....

No contest win to the BA.
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even considering the lower diff ratio in the xr6?
assuming we are talking auto's here
Yep. XT 6cyl can out-drag an XR6.
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not only would it beat the VP5L, but if it was a 6 speed auto (BFMKII) XT it would embarrase the living crap out of it
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you people are comparing a nicely engineered vehicle to a donut machine !
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the xt is a 6 cylinda and the vp is it a v8? because if so why would you be comparing them the vp is lighter with 2 extra cylindas? in saying that though i would think the xt would get power down better
BA has 10 years tech on the VP.

i would say the BA would be a bit faster - dad once had the 165kw V8 Statesman and his works EBII Gli wagon 4.0 could keep up with it - he and my mum dragged each other at the lights - it was a draw i think (back when 165kw seemed like a fair bit of power) now a 3L diesel will put out more than that.

statesmans are heavy as **** thus they are slow
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