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It's a front drive concept, its the right size & it's designed here, built in China.
Hope it happens, though the article makes it sound like a very remote possibility. Quote:
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And I thought the FGX was ugly. Yuk
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You can see the VF influence! I would not be surprised to learn it was designed around the VF's base architecture.
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That's actually not too shabby, plenty of potential there and much nicer than the Mazda they're currently pushing.
Maybe if they at least do awd it will fill the SS gap.
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That grille worries me. How the hell do you attach the chev badge on to that ?
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If Holden can not get something remotely comparable to a Commodore, I think they will drop a lot of volume. I would not buy anything other than a Commodore from their range as it stands.
I would however buy a Fiesta, Focus, Mondeo etc from Ford. |
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I reckon they might sell about 140 of them, cause that's how many Australians will be employed to make it...
Made In China? To flog back to us? Stick it where the sun don't shine GM or err...ummm "Holden"....LOL. |
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This exactly, the Craptiva and it's siblings really are pieces of junk
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Holden are doomed..
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"The design team based at Holden's Melbourne headquarters was chosen by the General Motors leadership to not only design but also build the Avenir concept ahead of the company's American studio."
"He also revealed that it was the Holden studio's decision to make the Avenir a large sedan, not any directive from GM management." What, so they WERE selected to do it but they weren't?? Im confused. I call BS on the whole it could come to Australia thing, this is a China specific model by looking at specs, GM aren't going to pay for its design team just to design this for fun.
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There was an article the other day that confirmed from head honcho of Holden that a Chinese based commodore isn't coming to Australia...
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FWD cars are for your mum...
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I'd be impressed if mum had a Cooper S.
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Good to see the Holden execs already realise the only way they can sell it, is to confuse idiots by calling it Commodore.
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Thought this was 4wd.
Looks good anyway. |
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So basically nobody knows whats going on
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I hope the link works.
[URL="http://www.wheelsmag.com.au/news/1501/2018-commodore-already-in-australia/[/URL] |
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And people wonder why I, among others bag Holden/GMH!
Looking at ford and Holden is like chalk and cheese right now.....and for the far foreseeable future! |
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Agreed. The Holden range doesn't seem to offer anything appealing or doesn't have the winning edge over its competitors. We can safely conclude that the driving force of the Holden brand is only commodores, without it, the entire brand is at risk of collapsing entirely.
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FWD? Other places were saying it's RWD. Look at the proportions of the front section.
http://blog.caranddriver.com/qa-buic...rive-flagship/ |
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if its FWD they will sell as many as they did malibu's
Commodore enthusiasts will either buy a Camaro or Colarado (maybe not the colarado) Falcon enthusiasts will buy a Mustang or a Ranger a FWD car will never replace the Commodore or Falcon! FWD buyers will still buy Toyota's, Mazda's & Hyundai's
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FWD cars are already replacing comnmodores and falcons mate. Just look around at any traffic lights.. |
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Jacoby also essentially admitted the imported Commodore would not be rear-wheel drive, instead relying largely on front-wheel drive, with four-wheel-drive models for some applications. “I’m coming from a front-wheel-drive group – the VW/Audi Group [referring to his previous posting] – with this company we don’t believe there is a true disadvantage between a front-wheel-drive Audi, at the time, towards a rear-wheel-drive BMW,” he said. “You know that BMW is changing its entire C-segment vehicles to front-wheel drive?”
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i'm talking about the enthusiasts cars like XR6t, SS and so-on
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oh wait and Holden is staying with 100+ designers while Ford will struggle with over 1000+ designers, engineers and who ever else is needed... which one will pour more into the Australian economy post 2017. Anyway back o/t, nice design but I can sense Holden and it's International execs need to work out their lines before doing pressers.
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