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21-01-2010, 11:13 AM | #1 | ||
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HAvent found all facts yet but heard part of fox news saying police caught a young driver driving late last night with no head lights on.
Am trying to find out more. EDIT Found this http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/unl...-1225822013325 17 Year old Unlicensed Driver Caught With Full Car at Sunbury McDonalds A 17 year old male driver with four teenage girls in his parent's car has been caught by police in Sunbury on Wednesday night after visiting McDonalds. The youth had borrowed his parent's car to take a 30km drive from Romsey to Sunbury to pick up some fast food with the 16 year old girls. Police on patrol saw the car in the main street of Sunbury at about 11pm on Wednesday, driving without headlights. The police then pulled the car over, only to find that the driver was not completely in control of the car, applying the handbrake instead of going into gear which resulted int he car rolling. Police have suggested that it was clear that the 17 year old didn't know how to drive. The driver was issued with a penalty notice for driving without a licence and his parents were called to collect him in Sunbury. This latest incident comes just days after a drunken driver crashed his car into a tree in Mill Park, killing himself and his four passengers. Police are becoming increasingly frustrated at the behaviour of young people on Victoria's roads. Last edited by XT2XR; 21-01-2010 at 11:19 AM. |
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21-01-2010, 11:40 AM | #2 | ||
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There's one part of the puzzle. More police on the roads.
Had they not been pulled up by plod, who knows what may have happened? Those that get pulled over and booked by police consider themselves unlucky these days, not justifiably penalised for breaking the law. Instead, they drive around unlicenced, uninsured, drunk and like morons because the majority of policing done on our streets are done by cameras. |
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21-01-2010, 02:05 PM | #3 | |||
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No idea who it is though, theres heaps of morons in this town. How they made it through those massive roundabouts in Goonawarra and Sunbury to get to Maccas without killing anybody is lucky. Theres always heaps of people in Sunbury at them. |
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21-01-2010, 02:08 PM | #4 | ||
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man all it took was maccas to get 4 girls in your car? if only i knew this at 17
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21-01-2010, 02:12 PM | #5 | |||
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21-01-2010, 02:35 PM | #6 | ||
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I'll admit I've driven on the road unlicensed. Around an empty industrial block at 10pm when I was 14 and the great ocean road at 5pm hah at 15. p plater friend had been bitten by snake, reached some scary speeds in that triton lol (scary for a 15 year old)
Both made me a better driver and lucky didn't get in trouble for either. Agree it's stupid what these kids did. |
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21-01-2010, 02:40 PM | #7 | ||
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.... and yet another case of why we also need some way of punishing the passengers who are stupid enough to get into a car with someone who is obvisouly incapable of tieing his own shoes.
Although, Maccas is where it's at for 16 year old these days now there open 24 hours!
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21-01-2010, 02:53 PM | #8 | ||
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One of my ex workmates son got into the car with an unlicensed, drunk and stoned driver and they got done by the cops, he got a $250 fine for just being in the car with them.
This was at Fawkner. |
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21-01-2010, 02:57 PM | #9 | ||
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some child "do gooder" will blame macca's for being open and encouraging them to do that late at night...
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21-01-2010, 03:37 PM | #10 | |||
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21-01-2010, 03:44 PM | #11 | |||
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Job well done, I don't think he'll do that ever again. |
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21-01-2010, 03:55 PM | #12 | |||
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So what were the parents doing?
His learners should be torn up and his right to acquire a learners should be blocked until he turns 21. Yes, that is harsh, but if there is a hard penalty that sucks, then some people won't partake in risk-taking behaviour. What is a penalty notice? Should be charged with driving unlicensed, driving with passengers in car, reckless driving and auto theft. Quote:
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21-01-2010, 04:16 PM | #13 | ||
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My sister got done with unlicensed driving on her Ls, she even caused an accident. She was at court and the guy before her got reamed on the same charge, big fine and threatened to go to jail on his next offence, yet my sister goes in, gets treated nice and gets off with $300 and no penalty. You'd think a law student would know better or get treated harsh.
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21-01-2010, 04:25 PM | #14 | |||
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But it won't stop unlicensed drivers, never has. There are plenty of laws/restrictions/regulations in place already to try and kerb/reduce/punish stupidity, but there is no law to prevent it. More training and education? Yep for sure, but more education along the lines of responsibility for actions and that actions have consequences, and make the consequences a punishment that is fitting and relevant. Might be a better start. JHMO.
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21-01-2010, 04:28 PM | #15 | ||
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Is this bloody dumb week??? Don't these kids read the paper watch TV or listen to the radio??? Don't the parents of these numbskulls read the paper watch TV or listen to the radio??? How long before we see the next big fatality concerning "non" law abiding citizens???
Ok here is a challenge, what can we now do collectively as a society or state to help keep this individual and his female counterparts alive for the next ten years until these people can mature and think for themselves? They are obviously not turned off from the current laws or the events of this week. |
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21-01-2010, 04:36 PM | #16 | |||
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I am and have always been in favour of shock & awe. Make them attend their local City Hospital Emergency Department on weekends and make them assist the staff on overnight shift for a month would be one of my humble suggestions. Petition to change laws with regard to sentencing- stop sooking (not targeted at you specifically Bud Bud) that Civil liberties are encroached every time kid's (or anyone for that matter) get spoken to by police for doing something stupid...I could go on...and on...and on...
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21-01-2010, 04:36 PM | #17 | ||
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Here's an interesting question for all to ponder.... when was the last time you heard about someone getting killed in a motor vehicle and it wasn't as a result of someone breaking the law....
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21-01-2010, 04:42 PM | #18 | |||
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21-01-2010, 04:46 PM | #19 | ||
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yup looks like the silly season is draging on a bit this year for victorians
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21-01-2010, 04:51 PM | #20 | |||
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These other more recent events that have created such emotion are caused by individuals who don't care about you or me, think they are above the law or are just using the law as some sort of warped sport to see how long they can get away with it. |
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21-01-2010, 04:51 PM | #21 | |||
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I'm sure you've heard many times about parents 'blaming the system' over something that - ultimately - the parent is responsible for to the child (eg: TV, Maccas, Driving, Alcohol consumption, etc...) Perhaps the parents themselves should be ALSO held accountable for the kind of offences described earlier (ie: unlicensed/underage driving a vehicle). And to make matters worse - Drunk driver crashes outside crash victim's funeral : |
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21-01-2010, 06:48 PM | #22 | |||
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No suprise they got picked up too with how "out and about" the police are here. |
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21-01-2010, 07:15 PM | #24 | ||
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i think maybe some of these kids really havent got parents, in the sense of broken down marriages, custoidial and non custoidial parents i am one of them so i can write with a bit of knowledge in this area. A lot of people in this situation from what i have seen just let there teenagers do what ever they want so they dont upset the apple cart just let them do what they want with no dicipline at all, dont know if that will ever change !!
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21-01-2010, 07:24 PM | #25 | ||
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I blame the parents, they just aren't strict enough nowdays. I would have been strapped within an inch of my life for even thinking of pulling a stunt like that when i was his age.
Not saying my parents were sadists. I never got a thashing I didn't deserve and it always made me think twice about my actions afterwards. Bring back corporal punishment.
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21-01-2010, 08:51 PM | #28 | |||
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Not to mention: Sex Offenders; Murders; Drug Dealers; It's easy as a car orientated forum to focus on young people being trouble makers, as that is simply what we like to do, go crusing, partying, anything with a motor really, and we don't discuss as much the other spectrum of crimes which are mainly committed by the older generations if you watch the news.
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