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Old 06-04-2009, 06:40 PM   #1
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Default V-Facts March 2009

http://carpoint.com.au/news/2009/vfa...t-bounce-14711

The top-selling cars for the month were:

Holden Commodore 3544
Toyota HiLux 3306
Toyota Corolla 3007
Mazda3 2801
Ford Falcon 1990
Toyota Yaris 1741
Hyundai Getz 1597
Nissan Navara 1562
Toyota Camry 1515
Hyundai i30 1503

I got these from carpoint . If others have more info please post up

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Old 06-04-2009, 07:17 PM   #2
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Found this on ls1.com.au
Commodore 3544
Ute 885
Caprice 138
Statesman 40
Total =4607

Falcon 1990
Territory 763
Falcon ute 845
Total = 3598

Guessing its accurate
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Old 06-04-2009, 07:26 PM   #3
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no wonder i keep seeing bloody hilux's everywhere lol
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Old 06-04-2009, 07:50 PM   #4
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40 Statesmans.

Even during the BF Fairlanes darkest days it was still selling between 150 and 200 per month.
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40 Statesmans.

Even during the BF Fairlanes darkest days it was still selling between 150 and 200 per month.
Wow.. ford really missed out on when they pulled out of the luxury limo market....



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Old 06-04-2009, 08:01 PM   #6
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How many are the Sportswagons ? if you take the Sportswagon out of the figures. Actual Commodore sedan sales might be closer the Falcon ?
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Old 06-04-2009, 08:03 PM   #7
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Commodore is still so far in front, I wonder if this month ( April ) will yield the same results, considering that the Falcon and Commodore are so evenly priced......
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LOL

Now now 4Vman
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Commodore is still so far in front, I wonder if this month ( April ) will yield the same results, considering that the Falcon and Commodore are so evenly priced......
Holden will be discounting for quite a while I'd say, I don't think the numbers will change for months !
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Ford really need to get rid of their marketing team! ARHHH! There so usless.
advertising for such a great car. What a shame. Whats wrong with them?
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40 Statesmans.

Even during the BF Fairlanes darkest days it was still selling between 150 and 200 per month.
What about Caprice though
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Old 06-04-2009, 08:42 PM   #12
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The Hyundai people would be happy with that result............Holden ute sales would have to be up because they are selling the SV6 or whatever it is for 32,000 drive away.........
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I know it gets said every month, but HOW and WHY are old VE's still outselling the FG???????? : : :
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I know it gets said every month, but HOW and WHY are old VE's still outselling the FG???????? : : :
same answer as every month.. BRAND LOYALTY...



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same answer as every month.. BRAND LOYALTY...
And the buying public's indifference with the FORD brand.

The '5 year intention to buy Ford' stat is VERY low in the new car buying surveys.
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Old 06-04-2009, 09:36 PM   #16
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Wow.. ford really missed out on when they pulled out of the luxury limo market....
Now now 4Vman

With posts like this people might think you are an apologist for Ford HO which of course you are not, are you.
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Old 06-04-2009, 09:38 PM   #17
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Ford really need to get rid of their marketing team! ARHHH! There so usless.
advertising for such a great car. What a shame. Whats wrong with them?
They don't have a marketing team. They have an advertising team and when their budget is short like it is now they are even more useless than normal.
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Old 06-04-2009, 09:50 PM   #18
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I don't think we should be blaming the marketing guro's at Ford as the Toyota Hilux/ Corolla and even the Mazda 3 all outsold the Falcon and do they advertise more than Ford does, I think not, I see so many add's on tele promoting the new FG falcon XR6 for $35 drive away and then the comodore, and every now and then I will see Toyota add's saying they have huge saving's but they don't specify the hilux/corolla, so I don't think we can blame marketer's at Ford for the lack there of, it's just the climate we live in and the fact that alot of company's with fleet/lease vehicle's etc are brand loyal and will stay with what they know...
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I don't think we should be blaming the marketing guru's at Ford ...
Gurus?

They are boneheads.
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I don't think we should be blaming the marketing guro's at Ford as the Toyota Hilux/ Corolla and even the Mazda 3 all outsold the Falcon and do they advertise more than Ford does, I think not, I see so many add's on tele promoting the new FG falcon XR6 for $35 drive away and then the comodore, and every now and then I will see Toyota add's saying they have huge saving's but they don't specify the hilux/corolla, so I don't think we can blame marketer's at Ford for the lack there of, it's just the climate we live in and the fact that alot of company's with fleet/lease vehicle's etc are brand loyal and will stay with what they know...
yeh true...
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Old 06-04-2009, 10:55 PM   #21
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based on how good the FG is to drive i believe Ford Australia deserve to sell twice the volume of cars that they currently do!!!!!!!!!! it's a shame really
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Old 06-04-2009, 10:57 PM   #22
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do people really buy cars based on what they see on tv?

everyone carries on about how good holden marketing is etc etc and yet they are staring down the barrel of becoming extinct!!
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Old 06-04-2009, 11:00 PM   #23
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I think FoA are just 'hanging in there' with the Falcon until Focus production starts and ramps up with 3 vehicles off the one platform. It will become FoA's volume seller and then Falcon will be relegated to niche vehicle status for the rest of the lifespan of the current platform.

With numbers like this month after month, Falcon production after 2013 is becoming less and less likely.
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Old 06-04-2009, 11:15 PM   #24
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Que in the monthy doom and gloom falcon finishing up post's.

-Also expect more post's on marketing
-More post's on the FG looking like a BF blah blah....
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Old 06-04-2009, 11:24 PM   #25
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Unfortunatly i think the damage has been done . On the building sites im forever defending my ford and is hard when they notice it off the road all the time . When there looking for a new ute i tell them how good the fg is supposed to be quite often i get f@#. that I wont be buying a ford again.

I think Word of mouth is the best form of advertising in my opinion and thats the sort they need and i think it the negative word of mouth thats cost them .


If the fg is that good sales will pick up in a couple of years
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Very close between the utes. Im doing my part for Ford Australia, are you? :P
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Does anyone know the split between private & fleet sales? I remembering reading somewhere a few weeks (maybe months) ago that Falcon where strungling to get fleet sales. Might not be such a bad number for Falcon if a large majority where private sales.

I must admit I don’t see many XT models around mostly G series with XR close behind.
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everyone carries on about how good holden marketing is etc etc and yet they are staring down the barrel of becoming extinct!!

Its the Falcons poor image that is due to the lack of sales and not their advertising. It would do better if people weren't losing their jobs but that is effecting everyone.

Also on the fleet front, they now have to have a certain green image and until just recently the Falcon wasn't up to the mark. So now with the new updates it should help. Another issue is the existing stock issue as it is quite low and I know with the lack of manuals in Vic (FG XR6 N/A) there is one less sale they will be able to chalk up.
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Old 07-04-2009, 02:26 AM   #29
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I've seen a few more on the roads of late. Saw a beautiful G series in a really dark grey colour yesterday that caught my eye, and this afternoon I followed a Black XR8.

The FG really looks really good in the darker colours. They are really starting to grow on me.
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none of those figures are good for any brand, people have been pinching pennies because of doom and gloom statements, give ot a year see where its at, things should be getting better imo.
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