Applying For An Exemption

XR8 Uterous · 28-07-2007, 09:45 AM

As I'm sure everyone knows by now P-Platers in NSW can no longer drive V8's. So I'm thinking about applying for an exemption so i can drive dads GT, the reasoning behind it is i do a lot of driving around for dad as he is away on business a fair bit, and dad wants to buy another GT or typhoon soon but only will if i get the exemption and of course i want to! If i dont he will buy something i can drive, legally.

As dad owns a transport company and i do holiday work for him, he was thinking of saying i need to drive a V8 as he has a V8 work Ute, BUT, he doesn't have a V8 work Ute, would the RTA be likely to check if he has a V8 Ute?

I'm going to do an advanced driving course if that will help with the application.

Anybody on here been successful with applying for one? What reasoning did you give?

Anyone got any ideas which could help the application be successful?

Any help would be appreciated,

Thanks

SHIFTN · 28-07-2007, 10:04 AM

I didn't know you could get them haha shows how much attention I pay

Doing the driving course would probably help

**DJM83** · 28-07-2007, 10:34 AM

Never heard of it, and knowing the RTA i doubt a drving course will help but good luck with it and let us know

pauljh74 · 28-07-2007, 12:11 PM

http://gls.arrivealive.vic.gov.au/co...aq/Itemid,113/
(Down near bottom of page)

"Exemptions will only be considered in exceptional circumstances where it can be proven by the driver that he/she will endure undue hardship if the exemption is not granted. All requests for an exemption must be in writing and sent to:

VicRoads
Exemptions
Locked Bag 5000
KEW VIC 3101

Probationary drivers required by their employer to drive a high powered vehicle during working hours will be automatically exempted."

Considering your Dad can afford a GT and is considering another FPV, I think you'll be up against it. You may get one for when you do work for him, but if you do I'd say there's a chance you'll get pulled over for checks more frequently when they see P's on a GT

FPV8U · 28-07-2007, 12:16 PM

They will check, so don't lie to them.

If your Dad buys a FPV and put it in the business name, you will be fine to drive it, just carry a letter in the car from your employer explaining it is the work vehical provided to you and the police shouldn't trouble you.

As shown above that is the way it works in Victoria, not sure if it is the same for NSW, but your answer is only a phone call away.

shane3 · 28-07-2007, 12:47 PM

As a have been "P" plater who has a GT I would say don't display the "P" plate and if your dad has the windows tinted keep them up, I was pulled over 3 times in 2 weeks then took down the "P" plate and was okay.

alstar5 · 28-07-2007, 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by shane3

As a have been "P" plater who has a GT I would say don't display the "P" plate and if your dad has the windows tinted keep them up, I was pulled over 3 times in 2 weeks then took down the "P" plate and was okay.

Yeah fully advice bro!
I don't even bother with a licence anymore, I save myself $130 a year!

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XR8 Uterous · 28-07-2007, 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by FPV8U

They will check, so don't lie to them.

If your Dad buys a FPV and put it in the business name, you will be fine to drive it, just carry a letter in the car from your employer explaining it is the work vehical provided to you and the police shouldn't trouble you.

As shown above that is the way it works in Victoria, not sure if it is the same for NSW, but your answer is only a phone call away.

Yeah the car is in works name.

What would happen if i put in an application, they check, see dad doesnt own a V8 work ute, what would they do?

FPV8U · 28-07-2007, 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by MYGT05

Yeah the car is in works name.

What would happen if i put in an application, they check, see dad doesnt own a V8 work ute, what would they do?

As long as it is a work car then you are not braking any rules, it doesn't say it ha to be a ute does it?

Make sure you call RTA or whatever to confirm your states laws on this though.

If it is the same as in victoria, carry a letter from your boss and that is the end of it, you don't need an exemption from the RTA. (Once again look into this)

XR8 Uterous · 28-07-2007, 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by FPV8U

As long as it is a work car then you are not braking any rules, it doesn't say it ha to be a ute does it?

Make sure you call RTA or whatever to confirm your states laws on this though.

If it is the same as in victoria, carry a letter from your boss and that is the end of it, you don't need an exemption from the RTA. (Once again look into this)

I havnt really looked into it, but it doesnt say it has to be a ute. From what i know you can get an exemption if you need a V8 or turbo for work purposes, which is why i said its a V8 work ute.

I'll call the RTA tomorrow and see what happens, its free to apply so worst that can happen is they say no.

b2tf · 28-07-2007, 08:21 PM

You are such a liar

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FPV8U · 28-07-2007, 08:25 PM

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Originally Posted by MYGT05

I havnt really looked into it, but it doesnt say it has to be a ute. From what i know you can get an exemption if you need a V8 or turbo for work purposes, which is why i said its a V8 work ute.

I'll call the RTA tomorrow and see what happens, its free to apply so worst that can happen is they say no.

Why tell them it's a V8 work Ute, when it isn't and doesn't have to be one, if they look into it like Vicroads does they will realise you are not telling the truth, i know as it took me around 3 months of letters to and from vicroads to get mine.

TwistedEL · 28-07-2007, 08:44 PM

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Originally Posted by alstar5

Yeah fully advice bro!
I don't even bother with a licence anymore, I save myself $130 a year!

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It costs you guys $130/yr for a license?

davocol · 28-07-2007, 11:37 PM

Hahaha classic line, thanks for the laugh.

QUOTE=alstar5]Yeah fully advice bro!
I don't even bother with a licence anymore, I save myself $130 a year!

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devilcv8 · 29-07-2007, 12:02 AM

some really really great advice here, and if you follow it you deserve everything that happens to you. (why oh why do people give other state advice that has no bearing on the op's state)

As you are in NSW goto the RTA and get the exemption form (either download it or get it from the office).
For a work related exemption you HAVE to put the rego numbers down of the prohibited vehicles unless there are more than 5 (I'd have to check the exact number) and there has to be no non prohibited vehicles that can be used.
And don't try lieing, the RTA will check the rego numbers listed, or the number of vehicles registered in the company name.

Put the exemption in now if the existing car is in the company name, otherwise have the company buy and register a car and then put the exemption in.

devilcv8 · 29-07-2007, 12:05 AM

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Originally Posted by MYGT05

I'll call the RTA tomorrow and see what happens, its free to apply so worst that can happen is they say no.

actually it costs $24

as per http://www.rta.nsw.gov.au/licensing/licensingfees.html

Turbot · 29-07-2007, 12:10 AM

This may be what your looking for?
http://www.rta.nsw.gov.au/publicatio...s/45071143.pdf

FPV8U · 29-07-2007, 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by devilcv8

some really really great advice here, and if you follow it you deserve everything that happens to you. (why oh why do people give other state advice that has no bearing on the op's state)

As you are in NSW goto the RTA and get the exemption form (either download it or get it from the office).
For a work related exemption you HAVE to put the rego numbers down of the prohibited vehicles unless there are more than 5 (I'd have to check the exact number) and there has to be no non prohibited vehicles that can be used.
And don't try lieing, the RTA will check the rego numbers listed, or the number of vehicles registered in the company name.

Put the exemption in now if the existing car is in the company name, otherwise have the company buy and register a car and then put the exemption in.

Thanks for clearing that up DevilCV8 as i said to MYGT05 he needs to get in contact with the RTA and see exactly what the rules in his state were.

XR8 Uterous · 29-07-2007, 01:24 PM

Thanks for the help everyone, will talk to dad about it and see what way he wishes to go from here.

Thanks

nugget378 · 29-07-2007, 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by MYGT05

As I'm sure everyone knows by now P-Platers in NSW can no longer drive V8's. So I'm thinking about applying for an exemption so i can drive dads GT, the reasoning behind it is i do a lot of driving around for dad as he is away on business a fair bit, and dad wants to buy another GT or typhoon soon but only will if i get the exemption and of course i want to! If i dont he will buy something i can drive, legally.

As dad owns a transport company and i do holiday work for him, he was thinking of saying i need to drive a V8 as he has a V8 work Ute, BUT, he doesn't have a V8 work Ute, would the RTA be likely to check if he has a V8 Ute?
Thanks

Not too smart putting this up on a public forum,anyone from the RTA could be reading it.
Noy saying dont do it,Im all for bending rules a little,but dont go shouting it from the rooftops.

5tumpy · 29-07-2007, 01:43 PM

Mate,

1st question, did you get your p's before 11 July 2005? If you did, the restrictions don't apply. If you can prove that you need to drive this car for employment purposes, then you are eligible for exception. So why is it that NEED to be driving the GT? Is the car essential to the business? Also, if your dad owned the car prior to 11 July 2005, that makes you eligible as well.

Lastly, do you own a car, in your name that is not a restricted car. Because if you do, chances are they are going to going to say "bad luck, use that car"...

Details for getting an exemption are here in section "E"... Good luck mate!

XR8 Uterous · 29-07-2007, 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by 5tumpy

Mate,

1st question, did you get your p's before 11 July 2005? If you did, the restrictions don't apply. If you can prove that you need to drive this car for employment purposes, then you are eligible for exception. So why is it that NEED to be driving the GT? Is the car essential to the business? Also, if your dad owned the car prior to 11 July 2005, that makes you eligible as well.

Lastly, do you own a car, in your name that is not a restricted car. Because if you do, chances are they are going to going to say "bad luck, use that car"...

Details for getting an exemption are here in section "E"... Good luck mate!

Yes we owned the car prior to July 11 2005, we more than likely wouldn't of bought the car if we knew the laws were coming in.

There is no real need to be driving it apart from the fact i do alot of driving for dad while he is away on business, the business pays for fuel so if i drive his car the business pays the costs, not him personally.

I dont have a car in my name, my car is in the business name.

It's more so my dad that wants me to get the exemption as he wants another GT or Typhoon and the only reason we havnt bought one yet is i cant drive it so we havnt decided what else to buy. If i get an exemption we will buy another FPV.

poolkeeper · 29-07-2007, 05:38 PM

[QUOTE=MYGT05]

I dont have a car in my name, my car is in the business name.
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You wont get an Exemption, they will just tell you to drive your current car...

XR8 Uterous · 30-07-2007, 01:02 AM

[QUOTE=D1XR2C]

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Originally Posted by MYGT05

I dont have a car in my name, my car is in the business name.
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You wont get an Exemption, they will just tell you to drive your current car...

Which is what i was expecting, im not fussed.

Thanks everyone.

SiKoRa_eL_97 · 30-07-2007, 03:47 AM

good luck!!
Keep pestering about it :P

red_hotxr6 · 30-07-2007, 07:57 AM

How long before you are legally allowed to drive a v8, 5, 10 years, geez, the laws are in place for a reason, and you want to circumnavigate them, hold the phone bide your time and soon you will be allowed to drive a v8.

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Tote · 30-07-2007, 10:33 AM

I'd still appy for the exemption although I'm dubious you'd get it. It's only going to cost you $25.00 to find out.
My brother in law who lives in western NSW lost his licence and his partner who is on P plates applied so that she could legally drive his v8 Holden ute as that was the only vehicle they owned. The RTA did not consider that sufficient reason to give her an exemption.
Regards,
Tote

Tuddy200 · 30-07-2007, 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by red_hotxr6

How long before you are legally allowed to drive a v8, 5, 10 years, geez, the laws are in place for a reason, and you want to circumnavigate them, hold the phone bide your time and soon you will be allowed to drive a v8.

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If he wasn't using it for work use, then Yes, bite the tounge get over it.

But if it was me, I'd much rather be using company car that is on company fuel then mine own which drives up my kms and uses my fuel!! Thats where the law fails to help us, and people say we arn't targeted.

poolkeeper · 31-07-2007, 09:02 PM

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Originally Posted by MYGT05

Which is what i was expecting, im not fussed.

Thanks everyone.

Im in the same boat as you.
I cant drive my dads tornado, its a work vehicle and I work for him, they didnt give me an exzemption??

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Its a win win situation for me though

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