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Old 22-08-2005, 10:14 AM   #1
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Default Normal operating temp starting problem

I have a 1988 ea fairmont and it starts fine if car has been sitting still for a couple of hours but if say i stop to get fuel or duck in to the shops or something i go to start it and it just cranks for ages like for about 20 cranks then it fires then dies almost instantly what sort of problem am i looking at i have a couple of ideas but has anyone else had this problem before i thought it could be the coil is getting to old that once its hot it dosent function properly or the alternator not fully functional or the tps is playing up need help fast !

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Old 22-08-2005, 10:20 AM   #2
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Old 22-08-2005, 10:48 AM   #3
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i had a new dizzy installed not to long ago is there anything else it could be !!!
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TO COME: 5 speed trans, 4.11 LSD, Carputer, Stage 2 cam, Major Head Work . :
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Old 22-08-2005, 02:34 PM   #4
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also the car overheats all the time even while driving at high speeds i replaced the radiator and thermostat and water pump and clutch fan now thats one thing that has really stumped me anyone got any idea's
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MODS: Hurricane Extractors, Red dash light, Fake Xenon Lights, Mpfi Conversion, Dumpage, 17" ANZ Mayhems (Chrome)

TO COME: 5 speed trans, 4.11 LSD, Carputer, Stage 2 cam, Major Head Work . :
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Old 22-08-2005, 04:15 PM   #5
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is it actually overheating or just the temp guage saying it is?
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Old 22-08-2005, 04:40 PM   #6
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you sure the timing is set right.
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Old 22-08-2005, 06:54 PM   #7
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yeah the timing is right my mechanic set when i was last there and the temp rises to about the L in normal then drops back to m then goes then slowly goes back to L and when going up a hill the car is quite sluggish and wont pick up speed unless i bring it down to first and the brakes are always quite warm even tho im not using them that much but yeah when the cars hot like between M and L the brake pedal i quite firm and and when its cold after turning it on when its been sitting over night the pedal feels quite normal ! this is driving me insane its just one problem after another !
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Old 23-08-2005, 12:52 PM   #8
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Search the Ford forums for 'Starting problem', 'Starting hot' etc.
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Old 23-08-2005, 01:06 PM   #9
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THATS EXACTLY WHAT MY CAR IS DOING!!!

Things ive found are "faulty Master Cylinder" is causing my brakes to stick on the rear

Ive tried swapping TPS's over and setting them correctly does SFA.
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Old 23-08-2005, 01:58 PM   #10
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my god this is driving me nuts so InitialD is your problem all fixed up or is it doing it still and was the car slowing down only when it got hot cause mine drives fine for a while but as soon as it goes over the M it starts to get really sluggish i drilled out 2 holes in the thermostat just before and ill go and look at my master cylinder now what should i be looking for if its stuffed ????
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TO COME: 5 speed trans, 4.11 LSD, Carputer, Stage 2 cam, Major Head Work . :
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Old 23-08-2005, 03:13 PM   #11
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well i opened just opened the resivour tank cap and found that a massive rubber cover from another car has just been stuffed in there its like 3 cm bigger all around each sides could this be the problem ive been looking for and now ive got to work out how im going to get a correct ea one !!!!
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MODS: Hurricane Extractors, Red dash light, Fake Xenon Lights, Mpfi Conversion, Dumpage, 17" ANZ Mayhems (Chrome)

TO COME: 5 speed trans, 4.11 LSD, Carputer, Stage 2 cam, Major Head Work . :
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Old 23-08-2005, 05:29 PM   #12
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what do you guys thinnk ???
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MODS: Hurricane Extractors, Red dash light, Fake Xenon Lights, Mpfi Conversion, Dumpage, 17" ANZ Mayhems (Chrome)

TO COME: 5 speed trans, 4.11 LSD, Carputer, Stage 2 cam, Major Head Work . :
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Old 24-08-2005, 10:58 PM   #13
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with the over heating prob put a new thermostat in i had the same symptoms as you and found with a new thermo it fixed the what looked like it was overheating
also remember there is only about 10 deg variance in the normal range from where it enters normal to the red zone
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Old 25-08-2005, 12:26 AM   #14
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Check for loose electrical connections at dizzy, coil and alternator...

Check the fuel pressure...

could also be a vacuum leak at gasket surfaces of throttle body.
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