premium sound e series vs b series

RAPID_BA · 18-06-2011, 10:24 PM

I have a e series LTD with its premium sound and also a b series xr8 with premium sound.

I listen to them back to back and I'm not sure the b series premium sound is better. Mine is a little better but I've upgraded sub and speakers.

But stock for stock the e series premium sound might have the b series?

What do we think?

XRGhia · 18-06-2011, 10:28 PM

yeah, probably because DF/DL LTD's came standard with a rear amp, full premo sound, 9 speakers (inc subwoofer), etc etc....

RAPID_BA · 19-06-2011, 12:23 AM

Isn't that same as fairmont ghia e series?

Isn't the premium sound in ba series ltd same as premium sou
nd fitted to ghia or xr?

malazn mafia · 19-06-2011, 12:45 AM

E-series wins hands down for stock setup, I think the deck was designed by Pioneer. The DSP/Effect option sounded terrific. BA premium sound is about on par with a cheap no-brand boom box from K-mart, the DSP effects sounded like they come from a kid's toy. FG is a step up, made by the same group that built the BA premium sound, but is not quite to the level of E-series. The FG premium sound seems to have removed the tinny, lame Sound Processing Effects the BA premium sound had.

XRGhia · 19-06-2011, 12:52 AM

Yeah, deck, amp, 6-stack, speakers were all Pioneer...

mrghia · 19-06-2011, 12:57 AM

i thought the E-series amp and stacker were alpine?

XRGhia · 19-06-2011, 01:03 AM

I defiently know the Amp was Pioneer on factory cars with premo sound from EF2 onwards...

only ones that got ///failpine ****, were EF/EL/AU GLi/Forte/Futura/Fairmont's IF they were optioned with the 6-stack and amp/sub

That's coming from Ford, not me

mrghia · 19-06-2011, 01:09 AM

the alpine amp wasn't to bad i had if powering a 12" VDO sub pretty well. Have have had a similar sound comparison in my EL Ghia and my uncles BA XR8 and both agreed the the EL Ghia stereo was better.

Bobman · 19-06-2011, 02:30 AM

Even outside the stereo, the quality of panels, plastics and seats were higher quality than the BA/BF series.

No wonder the EL outsold the Commodore at the time...

RAPID_BA · 19-06-2011, 02:34 AM

Even my upgraded ba premium sound struggles against the stock LTD e series premium sound.

Sprint XR8 · 19-06-2011, 03:46 AM

EF-EL, AU and BA-BF premium sound head units were all made by FMS audio.

FMS was a joint venture between Ford Mazda and Sanyo.

**Professor Farnsworth** · 19-06-2011, 03:56 AM

I've had three EL Ghia's and all three of them annihilated my BF XR with premium sound. The AU Ghia i have also has impressive sound, though there is not enough control on the sub output, and it booms a little. Still kicks the BF's backside though. I remember pulling the speakers out of my BA XR (non premo) and they were a joke. Having said that the BF's with premo looked even worse. From memory one had Pioneer speakers and the other had Panasonic.

GT0132 · 19-06-2011, 04:28 AM

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Originally Posted by HULK_BA

Even my upgraded ba premium sound struggles against the stock LTD e series premium sound.

Not surprising. The B premo sound is a joke...One of the mods I'm looking at but have been procrastinating over for a couple of years is to upgrade all speakers and the sub.

What have you done to yours to upgrade it?

Did the E series premo have CD player or tape deck?

**Professor Farnsworth** · 19-06-2011, 04:32 AM

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Originally Posted by GT0132

Not surprising. The B premo sound is a joke...One of the mods I'm looking at but have been procrastinating over for a couple of years is to upgrade all speakers and the sub.

What have you done to yours to upgrade it?

Did the E series premo have CD player or tape deck?

it had a 6 stacker in the boot and an in-dash tape deck, AU got 6 stack in-dash and in-indash tape deck

Rodp · 19-06-2011, 07:35 AM

My EF Ghia was by far the best factory stereo I ever owned.

Listening to Van Halen on 'Stadium' was brilliant.

**SSD-85** · 19-06-2011, 08:54 AM

I really like my AUs Premium sound. Very loud & clear. Since im not into deafening myself, its more than acceptable for me. Even sounds better than the Yamaha 5.1 setup I used to use in the lounge room.

The E-series one is pretty good too. My EF Fairmont Ghia had the full DSP & Amp too, unfortunately the speakers were shot simply from age. So I cant comment on volume but clarity & DSP effect were very good.

BA GT-HO · 19-06-2011, 11:47 AM

I have owned both and the e-series sounded better to me.

RAPID_BA · 19-06-2011, 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by GT0132

Not surprising. The B premo sound is a joke...One of the mods I'm looking at but have been procrastinating over for a couple of years is to upgrade all speakers and the sub.

What have you done to yours to upgrade it?

Did the E series premo have CD player or tape deck?

E series has 6 stacker in the boot and tape deck up front.

In my ba sound upgrade is as follows

Sub replaced for a kenwood 8 inch sub kfc-xw800f

4 speakers front door and rear parcel shelf with 6 inch kenwood 3 way speakers with adaptor spacers.

Sound quality is much better, most notably you can lift volume to almost full and its still clear. heaps better than standard for about $300 and a few hours fitting.

nstg8a · 19-06-2011, 02:38 PM

yeah ive been really impressed with the premo' system in my ef ghia, and thats without having the sub. once i refit a sub and redo all the speakers it will be plenty for what i want.

oh, and the stacker and amp in my ef is pioneer not alpine. not that theres anything wrong with alpine.

Donny · 19-06-2011, 02:53 PM

Iv had premmy sound in my BA1 XR and BF2 GT-P, both cars I bought new, and I still swear to this day the BA1 unit pumped and sounded better..
I was happy with the prem sound in my BA, but never really happy with the BF. My "bum in the seat" feeling was the BA premmy sound was better..

My AU XR was a non prem sound car, I bought and fitted all the componants to update it to factory Prem sound and am driving that all via an older single din Pioneer MP3 headunit, and the sound is pretty darn good.. Enough for me to be happy enough with it as is for now..

**Professor Farnsworth** · 19-06-2011, 05:29 PM

The Premo in the G6ET i test drove was HORRENDOUS if that's any consolation. The sub was turned way down yet was rattling and distorting like a bag of glasses.

**SSD-85** · 19-06-2011, 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Professor Farnsworth

The Premo in the G6ET i test drove was HORRENDOUS if that's any consolation. The sub was turned way down yet was rattling and distorting like a bag of glasses.

Is there a chance it just wasn't mounted properly?

I wouldnt know from personal experience, but it would otherwise mean that every FG premo system would do it? And if that is indeed the case, then yes it really is Horrendous.

**Giant Cranium** · 19-06-2011, 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Scotty85

Is there a chance it just wasn't mounted properly?

I wouldnt know from personal experience, but it would otherwise mean that every FG premo system would do it? And if that is indeed the case, then yes it really is Horrendous.

they all sound like ****.

**SSD-85** · 19-06-2011, 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by captain awesome

they all sound like ****.

That really is quite sad. They cant really be saving too much money by continually making the systems worse.

**Giant Cranium** · 19-06-2011, 05:50 PM

well ill be, t u r d is a swear word

malazn mafia · 19-06-2011, 07:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Professor Farnsworth

The Premo in the G6ET i test drove was HORRENDOUS if that's any consolation. The sub was turned way down yet was rattling and distorting like a bag of glasses.

The pins on the sub need to be reversed. Ford and their pathetic QC.

**Professor Farnsworth** · 19-06-2011, 07:57 PM

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Originally Posted by malazn mafia

The pins on the sub need to be reversed. Ford and their pathetic QC.

yeah reversing the polarity can change it, but the whole system was crap

**Revolver** · 20-06-2011, 10:54 AM

Both of my NC fairlanes as well as my dads one originally had the Alpine premo sound. With 6stacker in the boot, tape up front, alpine adjustable amp, (unscrew the small coverplate) and a sub in the shelf. I actually have two of the amps setup for when I get the sub & new speakers. In today's terns, those amps still hold their own. One in it's original quarter panel bracket, the other mounted on the back seat.

TheInterceptor · 20-06-2011, 11:16 AM

No premo sound but base systems here.

I had a very short stint in an EL GLI and it had an excellent stock system.

Then had the AUII Futura, wasnt bad at all but i upgraded the whole thing for better sound reproduction and better sound at higher volumes. Could go up to 24 with max bass settings without distorting, had decent volume at that point.

Now we're up to the BFII Futura, ive done too many kms in it and its safe to say they system is a peice of s... distorts at 21 with max bass settings which isn't a loud volume it seems.

Plus its not like you can replace the headunit on these, only rig one up in the tissue box holder and that looks odd and crap IMO.

Seems to be the same sort of pattern as is with premo.

My 2c.

**Grunter** · 20-06-2011, 11:26 AM

My EL sounded very good for a stock setup. My AU isn't to far off the EL, but as mentioned is lacking control. The FG Premium sound isn't to bad until you turn it up and then the sub distorts and is out of sync. As for calling it premium, the definition of Premium must have changed because it certainly isn't that.