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Old 05-07-2018, 02:01 AM   #1
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Default Classic cars experiencing royal rebirths as electric vehicles

Some of you who watched the royal wedding of Prince Harry and Meghan Markle (don't lie), may have noticed the 1968 E Type they drove off after, was actually a one off electric conversion.




Here's more about electrifying classic cars for collectors.



https://edition.cnn.com/2018/06/29/m...ntl/index.html




So anyone looking to put an electric motor in their Phase 3?
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Old 05-07-2018, 04:14 AM   #2
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I think Most phase 3's emit no emissions because they aren't driven.

But I think this could be great for a daily... the year is 2028 Fuel is $4.00 a Litre driving in the city requires a emission pass suddenly I have the option to continue use of my dinosaur vehicle.

Maybe we can do conversions similar to how we did for LPG...

Government could even look in to incentives.

Thinking out loud
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It isn't a rebirth it is Sacrilege !

Noise is part of the E type experience, people stop because of the noise from that lovely engine.

Noise is part of the GT experience, I just love the sound of my 351 turning over first thing in the morning, shaking and rocking trying to idle with the big cam and puffs of condensation coming out if each exhaust.

Next there will be some idiot who de-noises a Ferrari or Lambo or Aston.

The world has truly gone mad.
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Old 05-07-2018, 09:35 AM   #4
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Electric rebirth, interesting, I am more of a new drive train into old i.e. 5.0 Coyote and full IRS into a 1960's Mustang.
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Its been happening for years, most people have probably seen a converted car on the road and have been none the wiser, especially if it hasn't drawn your attention with a loud exhaust.
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It isn't a rebirth it is Sacrilege !

Noise is part of the E type experience, people stop because of the noise from that lovely engine.

Noise is part of the GT experience, I just love the sound of my 351 turning over first thing in the morning, shaking and rocking trying to idle with the big cam and puffs of condensation coming out if each exhaust.

Next there will be some idiot who de-noises a Ferrari or Lambo or Aston.

The world has truly gone mad.
Took the words right out of my mouth!

And its not just the sound, that Jaguar inline six was stunning to look at, just as much as the exterior.
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Old 05-07-2018, 09:42 PM   #7
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Well since Jaguar themselves did the conversion, I guess it's ok...it's only a one-off

If you had an empty shell of an older car, I suppose that's fine too.

That said, I do agree with others that the noise, vibrations are really what give these cars life.
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E-type … makes sense

I cant wait til they make a fusion-powered F-type
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Well maybe decades from now when EV's are they norm... We could again have a cottage car industry... Converting beloved retro models to electric.
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That kind of concept defeats the whole idea of the classic car ownership experience imo.


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Surprised no one has really brought the kits into mainstream availability.
There have been some amazing results in performance improvements.
I guess packaging is a problem and maybe the range isn’t good enough yet.
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There's that mob in the states doing it to old mustangs too, one of them was doing insane 1/4 times.
Can't remember what it was called, but it was like 250-300k
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Not a jaguar fan at all, but not a fan of doing this to classics.
They should be original as possible.
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Anyone notice that the 'Royal' E-Type was left hand drive ?

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Anyone notice that the 'Royal' E-Type was left hand drive ?

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I read the E-type was converted in the USA and shipped over so that it would symbolise the union of British and American togetherness i.e. it blends in with the other ostentatious Hollywood meet Royalty aspects of the wedding.
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I don't see a problem with doing an electrical conversion to a classic as long as it can be swapped back to how it was if need be.
I've seen a few of these types of conversions over the years and it ain't rocket science. Its a regular repower in the boating world where some of the classic craft are require to operate on pristine freshwater lakes.

But yeah, I would rather hear a great sounding 3.6 litre Jag 6 any day.
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Cheers Billy.

PS..Could of been Clonfucious...hee..hee
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I don't see a problem with doing an electrical conversion to a classic as long as it can be swapped back to how it was if need be.....

I'm pretty sure I read that this E-type conversion was a reverseable one.
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Yes it was done in a way the original 6 would slot straight back in.
The electrics were done by Rimac in Croatia.
There is a lot of stuff they have done that has been kept under wraps, but we know of at least the Agera and Valkyrie.

https://www.roadandtrack.com/new-car...dding-details/
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Cheers Billy.

PS..Could of been Clonfucious...hee..hee
ease up on that glass barbecue man.
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I don't see a problem with doing an electrical conversion to a classic as long as it can be swapped back to how it was if need be.
I've seen a few of these types of conversions over the years and it ain't rocket science. Its a regular repower in the boating world where some of the classic craft are require to operate on pristine freshwater lakes.

But yeah, I would rather hear a great sounding 3.6 litre Jag 6 any day.
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Surprised no one has really brought the kits into mainstream availability.
There have been some amazing results in performance improvements.
I guess packaging is a problem and maybe the range isn’t good enough yet.
They are out there people just haven't noticed yet...
Heres a couple of suppliers to start with
http://www.evshop.com.au/index.html
http://www.zeva.com.au/
and a 'Bizarro world' forum, just like ours but electric powered
https://www.diyelectriccar.com/forums/?
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I imagine driving one of these would be like rooting a transgender 'woman'.

For those saying they'd make a good daily driver, do you actually enjoy driving your classic as an everyday run around. Maybe I'm in the minority of classic owners but I'm paranoid driving any of mine around the careless brain dead motoring public who have the majority of their attention to somewhere or something else. The open road isn't so bad but I only travel thru town to get out of there.
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In Germany for the last 15 years or so, there has been high additional annual license fees for daily use of old cars. The owner can get exempt from the additional fees by modernizing the old cars with newer engines or retrofit fuel injection and catalyzer, and pass emission tests, or fit conversion kits that are pre-tested by TuV.
There are not many cars left on the roads that are from the 90s or older, but each of them are certainly polluting like 10 new cars.
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I imagine driving one of these would be like rooting a transgender 'woman'.

For those saying they'd make a good daily driver, do you actually enjoy driving your classic as an everyday run around. Maybe I'm in the minority of classic owners but I'm paranoid driving any of mine around the careless brain dead motoring public who have the majority of their attention to somewhere or something else. The open road isn't so bad but I only travel thru town to get out of there.
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I like my Au better!..why..well its easy,my longevity!
Every time I got in it I had to put it sideways,that beast of a car just demanded to be driven not nursed or looked at but driven,and driven hard!

I got rid of it for 2 reasons,firstly I could not afford to keep it due to my being put on a DSP, and secondly i had to wear a soft neckbrace every time I got in it,the thing was a cop magnet,but I drove it hard,no good having that sweet sound out the exhaust at idle,I wanted to hear and feel it at the redline,I wanted it to scream inside my head,cops said NO..so now I got a bog standard Au 11 Fairmont.

Driven not Hidden,the Shannon's Insurance ads on TV make me want to jump in my TV and punch the owners heads in!!!

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In Germany for the last 15 years or so, there has been high additional annual license fees for daily use of old cars. The owner can get exempt from the additional fees by modernizing the old cars with newer engines or retrofit fuel injection and catalyzer, and pass emission tests, or fit conversion kits that are pre-tested by TuV.
There are not many cars left on the roads that are from the 90s or older, but each of them are certainly polluting like 10 new cars.
Cheers,
You do realise new cars still pollute the planet, owning an older car uses a lot less resources over time than the materials required to keep building new throw away models.
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Heres one https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ODAZ...ature=youtu.be
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Got me thinking, lets face it a classic cruisers probably won't need a long range battery pack.
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