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Old 22-03-2024, 06:21 PM   #1
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How was the transmission behaving before u performed the service? I also believe it's about 7lts for a full fill, try jacking the car up on an angle so the highest point for the trans is it's fill point(so right side on the ground & left side up)
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Old 22-03-2024, 07:47 PM   #2
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How was the transmission behaving before u performed the service? I also believe it's about 7lts for a full fill, try jacking the car up on an angle so the highest point for the trans is it's fill point(so right side on the ground & left side up)
I bought it not long ago, with jerky trans, so I changed fluid then it became very smooth in every first cold drive 20 min.

I changed the filter which still was the orginal filter, totally clotted, see how it goes with new fluid and filter yesterday.

Unfortunately I don't have specific scan tool, only OBD dangle which is not up for the task.

thank you all for the kind replies

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Old 22-03-2024, 08:03 PM   #3
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How was the transmission behaving before u performed the service? I also believe it's about 7lts for a full fill, try jacking the car up on an angle so the highest point for the trans is it's fill point(so right side on the ground & left side up)
I believe it's 7.3 L dry fill, refill is about 6.5 L, considering the cooler and filter and tubes.

Also should it be level ? what's the issues if I overfill it ? lets say, 7.5L? any probs?
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Old 22-03-2024, 11:08 PM   #4
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I believe it's 7.3 L dry fill, refill is about 6.5 L, considering the cooler and filter and tubes.

Also should it be level ? what's the issues if I overfill it ? lets say, 7.5L? any probs?
Just to be sure, did you follow the procedure of filling until it runs out the level drain, then replacing plugs, running the engine and shifting through all the gears for a few minutes, switching off, removing plugs, and most important waiting for the oil to stop running out the level drain again before topping up till it overflows again. And you do want the car level when you do this.

The problem is, if you don't follow the procedure properly and just put 7 1/2 litres in, you'll end up with the rear section of the transmission overfilled, but the front, where the oil pump and valve body are will be underfilled.
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Old 23-03-2024, 01:17 AM   #5
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Just to be sure, did you follow the procedure of filling until it runs out the level drain, then replacing plugs, running the engine and shifting through all the gears for a few minutes, switching off, removing plugs, and most important waiting for the oil to stop running out the level drain again before topping up till it overflows again. And you do want the car level when you do this.

The problem is, if you don't follow the procedure properly and just put 7 1/2 litres in, you'll end up with the rear section of the transmission overfilled, but the front, where the oil pump and valve body are will be underfilled.
Yes, I did exactly what manual says. even used leveler to make it's level.

take what drained off about 2-300ml. total fill about 7L.
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Old 23-03-2024, 03:16 PM   #6
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No over filling is not a good idea, Jack up so fill point is the high point(so one wheel on the ground the other lifted), & fill like that, as suggested then run through all gears several times, recheck level, lower car & take for a short run(enough to get to running temp), making sure u run it in all gear & manual mode-important, bring back put on a level surface & recheck oil level(level check should be done on flat level surface@operating temp) the other investment u should make is the dongle for FORSCAN(LINKER LS or OBDLINK EX are the two best & recommend by FORSCAN) Then it gives u the opportunity to reset the TCMs learning parameters which will reset shift points & pressures(when resetting there is a learning process to correctly relearn shift & shift pressures-best done at a quiet time & a place with not much traffic to start off) basically start off with limited throttle & gradually run it through the gears until top gear is achieved then let it coast to a stop without using brakes if u can, then repeat this using different throttle inputs, until eventually a few free spirited runs (I like to use an on ramp of a freeway/motorway).....but in the end the condition that u described your transmission in when u serviced it it could be also the the clutchs also have significant wear & have done there day, as Ford also recommends 60k service intervals for these transmission....
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No over filling is not a good idea, Jack up so fill point is the high point(so one wheel on the ground the other lifted), & fill like that, as suggested then run through all gears several times, recheck level, lower car & take for a short run(enough to get to running temp), making sure u run it in all gear & manual mode-important, bring back put on a level surface & recheck oil level(level check should be done on flat level surface@operating temp) the other investment u should make is the dongle for FORSCAN(LINKER LS or OBDLINK EX are the two best & recommend by FORSCAN) Then it gives u the opportunity to reset the TCMs learning parameters which will reset shift points & pressures(when resetting there is a learning process to correctly relearn shift & shift pressures-best done at a quiet time & a place with not much traffic to start off) basically start off with limited throttle & gradually run it through the gears until top gear is achieved then let it coast to a stop without using brakes if u can, then repeat this using different throttle inputs, until eventually a few free spirited runs (I like to use an on ramp of a freeway/motorway).....but in the end the condition that u described your transmission in when u serviced it it could be also the the clutchs also have significant wear & have done there day, as Ford also recommends 60k service intervals for these transmission....
Thank you so much for you reply.

It drives very good after I replace filter and refilled fluid, check the level again. so far so good.

Mechanic wise I think it's in good working condition, there's no slipping gears or other issues.
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