LS9 Corvette ZR1 Beats Nissan GTR Around Nurburgring!

Need_a_V8 · 21-07-2008, 04:08 PM

Who would have thought?! Has the Nissan GTR been beaten already? Well, there goes GTR’s bragging rights!

So quick after claiming the fastest time around the Nurburgring, the GTR appears to have lost its top dog status to the new 2009 Corvette ZR1.

The ZR1 has lapped the Ring in a time of 7 minutes 26 seconds (beating the GTR by 3 seconds), with anticipation of faster times if the weather was better during the record breaking run!

The car was stock standard except for the communications and safety equipments (i.e. Fire Extinguisher). According to the engineers, even the tires were also stock, and the Corvette was running on normal pump fuel.

The 6.2-liter supercharged engine powering the Corvette ZR1 packs 638 bhp/ 475kW. The monstrous engine would bring the american muscle car to 100km/h in a blistering 3.4 seconds, and breaking the quarter mile mark in 11.3 seconds.

A simple analysis of the Nissan GTR vs Corvette ZR1:

1. 3.8ltr twin turbo vs 6.2ltr twin-screw supercharger
2. All-wheel drive (ATTESA E-TS) vs Rear wheel drive
3. Bridgestone’s semi slicks vs Michelin PS2
4. Twin-clutch sequential gearbox vs traditional box
5. 7:29 vs 7:26

The Corvette has weight and power on its side, whilst the GTR has AWD, semi slick tyres (not production, for the Nurburgring only) and twin cluth sequential gearbox on its side.

Ives · 21-07-2008, 04:11 PM

I read about that on www.fastestlaps.com

Very impressive.

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Originally Posted by Need_a_V8

The Corvette has weight and power on its side, whilst the GTR has AWD, semi slick tyres (not production, for the Nurburgring only) and twin cluth sequential gearbox on its side.

The 7min 29sec time was done on a bone-stock production model GT-R. Also the Potenza RE070R tyres arent semi-slicks. They're ultra-high performance road tyres. Something like Advan A048 and Potenza RE55S are semi-slick tyres.

Also, Nissan never claimed that the GT-R was the fastest production car. The Zonda F Clubsport and the Carrera GT were faster than the

Once again, kudos to Corvette.

GS608 · 21-07-2008, 04:17 PM

Wasn't the Skylines claim to fame that it bet a Ferrari round the ring?
can't remember which model though

Ives · 21-07-2008, 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by XR-CHIEF

Wasn't the Skylines claim to fame that it bet a Ferrari round the ring?
can't remember which model though

Edit :-

The R33 Skyline GT-R does 8min 1sec around the nurburgring. 430 Scuderia, 599GTB, F430, 360 Challenge Stradale are faster than the Skyline.

XR06T · 21-07-2008, 04:20 PM

http://youtube.com/watch?v=k6mEirkQN8o

Need_a_V8 · 21-07-2008, 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by XR-CHIEF

Wasn't the Skylines claim to fame that it bet a Ferrari round the ring?
can't remember which model though

There aim was to beat Porsche I think, which it beat all but the Carrera GT.

Need_a_V8 · 21-07-2008, 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Ives

Currently it's faster than any Ferrari road cars. I'd like to see how fast the 430 Scuderia goes around the ring, tho.

7:39 seconds for the Ferrari F430 Schuderia. Ranked 12th around the ring for road legal cars (Corvette is ranked 4th, GTR is ranked 7th).

Ives · 21-07-2008, 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Need_a_V8

There aim was to beat Porsche I think, which it beat all but the Carrera GT.

It was benchmarked against the 997 911 Turbo I believe.

Need_a_V8 · 21-07-2008, 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Ives

I read about that on www.fastestlaps.com

Very impressive.

The 7min 29sec time was done on a bone-stock production model GT-R. Also the Potenza RE070R tyres arent semi-slicks. They're ultra-high performance road tyres. Something like Advan A048 and Potenza RE55S are semi-slick tyres.

Also, Nissan never claimed that the GT-R was the fastest production car. The Zonda F Clubsport and the Carrera GT were faster than the

Once again, kudos to Corvette.

According to an article I read on Edmunds and zerotoahundred and a few other places on the net, they said the GT-R used Bridgestone Semi Slicks for its 7 minute 29 second run?

Ives · 21-07-2008, 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Need_a_V8

According to an article I read on Edmunds and zerotoahundred and a few other places on the net, they said the GT-R used Bridgestone Semi Slicks for its 7 minute 29 second run?

Yes I read that too. But a lot of people also believe that the Potenza RE070R are semi-slick tyres.

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Originally Posted by XR06T

http://youtube.com/watch?v=k6mEirkQN8o

Thanks for the vid. Saved...

stewyg · 21-07-2008, 04:28 PM

both of them are still pretty damn quick

Ives · 21-07-2008, 04:31 PM

The Skylines that XR-CHIEF is talking about, probably are the R32, R33, R34 Skyline GT-R.

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both of them are still pretty damn quick

I'm interested how much Corvette is gonna sell the ZR1 for.

GS608 · 21-07-2008, 04:59 PM

Actually i thought it was the R35 GT-R, heard it on Top Gear last week (S11E04)

TZENU · 21-07-2008, 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Ives

I'm interested how much Corvette is gonna sell the ZR1 for.

Am Interested to know too... How much are those 3 seconds worth, dollar wise??? and compared with the GTR

mcnews · 21-07-2008, 05:31 PM

Awesome, wish they sold them here in right hook. Possibly the only car in the 150k price range that I would take over a Porsche or a BMW Z car. I will be visiting the Corvette factory and museum late next month and am looking forward to checking the new beasts out.

flappist · 21-07-2008, 05:40 PM

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Originally Posted by mcnews

Awesome, wish they sold them here in right hook. Possibly the only car in the 150k price range that I would take over a Porsche or a BMW Z car. I will be visiting the Corvette factory and museum late next month and am looking forward to checking the new beasts out.

The corvette muesum is a lot of fun. There is some amazing stuff there including factory RHD models. Make sure you go to Fort Knox and the tank museum too. Kentucky is by far my favorite part of USA

And I suspect the gauntlett has been thrown. Nissan will better that time in the V-Spec, then Corvette will fight back and I am fairly sure Porsche will not take this lying down......

snappy · 21-07-2008, 05:43 PM

in the wikipedia the r35 has gotten the 4 best time on the top gear track. All i can say it is incredible considering the cost of this car.
For those that cant be bothered to go to the wiki site ... this is the history;

# 1:17.3 – Ascari A10
# 1:17.6 – Koenigsegg CCX (with "Top Gear Spoiler")
# 1:18.4 – Pagani Zonda F
# 1:18.9 – Maserati MC12
# 1:19.0 – Ferrari Enzo
# 1:19.5 – Ariel Atom 2 300
# 1:19.7 – Nissan GTR
# 1:19.7 – Ferrari 430 Scuderia
# 1:19.8 – Porsche Carrera GT
# 1:19.8 – Lamborghini Murciélago LP640
# 1:20.4 – Koenigsegg CCX [6]
# 1:20.7 – Ascari KZ1
# 1:20.9 – Mercedes-Benz SLR McLaren
# 1:21.2 – Ferrari 599 GTB Fiorano
# 1:21.9 – Ford GT
# 1:22.3 – Ferrari 360 Challenge Stradale
# 1:22.3 – Porsche 911 GT3 RS
# 1:22.4 – Chevrolet Corvette Z06
# 1:22.5 – Noble M15
# 1:22.9 – Ferrari F430 F1
# 1:23.2 – Ferrari F430 Spider F1
# 1:23.7 – Lamborghini Murciélago (retested)

schnoods · 21-07-2008, 05:45 PM

Thats a great effort indeed.

I thought the 427 version they brought out was a cracker, this one tops it.

Wonder when ford will listen up and and bring out a 5.4L blown version in something that can handle other than the Lightning Pickup.. The Gt isnt bad, just needs a bigger brass ones.

Ives · 21-07-2008, 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by schnoods

Wonder when ford will listen up and and bring out a 5.4L blown version in something that can handle other than the Lightning Pickup..

They already have, it's called Ford GT.

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Originally Posted by XR-CHIEF

Actually i thought it was the R35 GT-R, heard it on Top Gear last week (S11E04)

Ah alright, that's not a Nissan Skyline tho.

snappy · 21-07-2008, 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Ives

I just watched the episode. It's actually 1:19.7

They already have, it's called Ford GT.

Ah alright, that's not a Nissan Skyline tho.

bloody wikipedia

mcnews · 21-07-2008, 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by flappist

The corvette muesum is a lot of fun. There is some amazing stuff there including factory RHD models. Make sure you go to Fort Knox and the tank museum too. Kentucky is by far my favorite part of USA

And I suspect the gauntlett has been thrown. Nissan will better that time in the V-Spec, then Corvette will fight back and I am fairly sure Porsche will not take this lying down......

Unfortunately the itinerary is not up to me as I will be a guest of Harley riding with them from Memphis to Milwaukee for the 105th anniversary of Harley celebrations along with the new museum etc. They pay though, so I can put up with having my schedule dictated !

Ives · 21-07-2008, 05:51 PM

Here's the GT-R part in the latest Top Gear Episode. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dxt8rZd2vAM

snappy · 21-07-2008, 05:55 PM

all right i edited the chart . still i am extremely impressed

Need_a_V8 · 21-07-2008, 05:57 PM

MSRP of the Corvette ZR1 is $102,450US.

MSRP of the GTR will start at $71,900US.

So $30,000 difference between the two.

Ives · 21-07-2008, 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by TZENU

Am Interested to know too... How much are those 3 seconds worth, dollar wise??? and compared with the GTR

So $10,000 per second. Hmm.

mcnews · 21-07-2008, 06:06 PM

Come on guys. 30k more for a proper big thumping V8 supercar that looks horn than a playstation mock up ricer boy technocrat. The decision is simple :-)

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Need_a_V8 · 21-07-2008, 06:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Ives

They already have, it's called Ford GT.

The GT does a 7:52 lap of the Ring, not alot quicker than a Cadillac CTS-V. It needs more to be in the league of the ZR-1 and GTR.

Ives · 21-07-2008, 06:16 PM

Well, yeah... if Ford wants to beat the ZR-1 then they'd have to do better than Ford GT.

I think it's time for the Ford GT to get an update or two.

XR8putts · 21-07-2008, 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Ives

I think it's time for the Ford GT to get an update or two.

That could be difficult, it ended it's production run a while ago.

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Originally Posted by mcnews

Come on guys. 30k more for a proper big thumping V8 supercar that looks horn than a playstation mock up ricer boy technocrat. The decision is simple :-)

Yep, GTR it is

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Ives · 21-07-2008, 06:26 PM

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Originally Posted by puts99

That could be difficult, it ended it's production run a while ago.

Hmm, that's no good. Such a legendary car. Ford now needs a new hero.

EDIT :- So the F6 would be the fastest Ford you can buy today.