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06-08-2020, 10:37 PM | #1 | ||
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Anyone who hasn't owned a Tesla or modern Euro doesn't get it. Most functions are controlled by voice anyway and you can programme the steering wheel buttons to adjust wipers. I love not having buttons and haven't fumbled because of it.
I can't remember the last time I changed the vents position in any car. It's very much set and forget.
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I don't mind touch screens as long as I don't have to use them for everything. Like I don't want to use a touch screen to adjust the air fan speed or turn on a demister or such. I've never been in a car with a rotary dial to control the screen, but I don't get how that can be easier than a touchscreen. I feel like you would have to take your eyes off the road more with that compared to a regular touchscreen. |
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Tesla’s also require you to open the glove box through the screen? Why? I’ve never met anyone who has said “this glove box is really simple, if only it was more complicated and fiddley” Technology waa supposed to make our lives easier not making simple tasks more complicated |
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The doors aren't mechanical either. They are run by wire with mechanical overrides. I love the push button door opening rather than searching for a latch. And in the model Y, the doors open and close by themselves which is nice. As someone who loves technology, I find it trick. The Mustang and Merc we have, for example, has so many options on the steering wheel that my older parents struggle with (Heck, I do to as the cruise control is on a different side in some of the cars that further confuses). They love that there are only a couple of buttons on the Tesla. Much cleaner controls. The Falcons had nice and clear/simple controls on the steering as well. I've never used any of the buttons on the Everest and Falcon except for the temperature up or down. The rest are redundant. I find it easier having everything in the touchscreen and voice driven. I hate buttons in a cabin. Keep it clean.
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Voice recognition might be foxed by those of us who sing whilst driving! Wrong lyrics and who knows?
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07-08-2020, 09:58 AM | #9 | ||
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i believe voice activation also needs to be activated by the pressing of a button... not just picking up random voices as you drive. My territory is very limited in this regard, so perhaps someone with a car with voice activation can confirm.
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The BMW has a confirmation, but seems to interpret names much better anyway.
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Several times a week it catches something from the radio that it deems a verbal request and starts talking back to me...
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These articles are in relation to a driver getting fined in Germany for crashing his Tesla when trying to change the wiper speed in his model 3. The main function is controlled by the stalk but speed is via touchscreen (but can use buttons be he didn't know how).
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Either way, this thread, is not an attack on Tesla owners. This is another article linked in the original one i posted. https://www.iamroadsmart.com/campaig...s/infotainment Its in the UK and not sure how extensive it was, but i guarantee you won't find too many scientists/doctors disagree with it. The way our brains work is well known... even talking hands free on a phone significantly impairs our driving and observational skills. Few will dare admit it though.
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Why so binary? I'm not defending due to attack, I'm discussing as a topic of discussion. The Tesla system and the new Merc MBUX system are two systems that have almost no buttons and I was sharing my experience with them.
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07-08-2020, 01:31 AM | #16 | ||
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The vents on a tesla are pretty cool but...
Touchscreens don't belong in a car nevermind the glaring amount of light that comes from them when driving. They're ok if you don't need to touch the screen when driving but not if you have to adjust any controls while mobile. I've had two tries at getting a LCD screen into a car. A few years ago I mounted a iPad to the passengers side seat and used it for navigation. It was useful because it displayed traffic delays and a large easy to read map including the time, weather. etc. However its not something that you should be playing around with while driving. A LCD display should be strictly non-touchscreen unless you're immobile in which case it can be a touchscreen. The other attempt was using a touchscreen double din car stereo, terrible idea. even if the volume control is a set of buttons on the side of the screen the skip track/channel seek functions were on the touchscreen section. Unless all of the functions are on a steering wheel then its no good. Every time I tried to change the channel my finger would bounce up and down and side to side and I could barely change the radio station/track. Thats why I've got the Sony WX-900BT in my car now. Navigation is done with a Tom Tom GPS. That's all that I need. I could save up and get an android tablet and mount it on a stalk and let it hover in the middle of the car similar to how a tesla's screen is. But its expensive. Last edited by gooseneck; 07-08-2020 at 01:39 AM. |
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07-08-2020, 01:31 AM | #17 | ||
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What gets me is that our new car (like many/most) has voice control, and cn do a range of functions from the steering wheel and driver's display.
so, for example, it will easily allow me to phone somebody. Now the car will also allow texts to be sent, but not using voice control. No those have to be punched in using the touch screen!
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07-08-2020, 01:41 AM | #18 | |||
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07-08-2020, 07:26 AM | #19 | ||
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For all those advocating voice control as a replacement how do you find its accuracy?
I dont know if I have just been burnt by Toyota's system but I really use it, id say 50% of the time I need to repeat myself and by that time I want to spear a pole. Much rather use a dial.
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In all though, I rarely use the controls (except volume and cruise control). The rest is all voice control.
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07-08-2020, 01:36 PM | #21 | |||
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It must be so hard because people have different voices, accents etc, and some people simply can't/do not speak clearly enough for the system to pick it up. Might take years to get right though. Usually takes 2 goes for the voice controls in my FG to dial the number I want, but that's an old system now. |
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07-08-2020, 02:25 PM | #22 | |||
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07-08-2020, 10:23 AM | #23 | ||
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Guys you have to push the button in most to activate it so you can freely stretch your vocal chords.
Its interpretation of when you do speak to it is my issue. I barely use it for calling, I just push the call button on the steering wheel then scroll in the screen to find who I want to call.
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07-08-2020, 02:09 PM | #24 | ||
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Voice activation re calls from my experience is most driven by how you set up in your contacts list therefore who/what you ask.
IE names very similar, obviosuly your asked to quote which line no ? This for any software company will take time to fine tune I suppose. Same goes for Navigation. Bossxr8, yer the Sync in the Fords is getting on and int he frist place wasn't that great. Sync3 improved but leaving it as the OE version its behind. We've seen owners here in another thread go through a number of changes to upload later improvements/updates but I'm not that type of owner. The BM is way ahead the Falcon Sync naturally as mentioned but I find its actually got too many fields to fill at times re setting up a destination, one day IF these techs can improve this to cut the chase and in voice activation just quote your destination once and presto it configures you accept away you go. I prefer not to use the dial as Polyal says for you still have a tendency taking your eyes off the road. I'm with Whitey re use of the rotary dial placement, its comfortable and easy, in the Bimmer and the wifes CX5. She surprisingly is very good with that being her daily.
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11-08-2020, 07:39 PM | #25 | ||
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The worst thing with touchscreens is a bumpy road, very distracting and frustrating. Centre console controllers like Idrive are the way to go, anchor your wrist to "synchronise" the bumps and you can make accurate movements and selections on screen.
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12-08-2020, 06:42 PM | #26 | ||
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I'm still using knobs and buttons. I think you could use a mixture of both.
I find that the steering controls make the steering wheel weird to hold but I'm never in one long enough to get used to it. Whatever my next car is it is going to take a bit to learn everything it does. |
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A/ I read the word polluting, which is different enough to the word pollution.
B/ Have you got factory Sat-Nav? Fiddle knobs to get that working, I've seen how bad that is. |
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