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FF.Com.Au Hardcore
Join Date: Oct 2010
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Hey all, got my first fine today. Was a fixed red light so I feel retarded. However, it is my first offense in my time of having a license and it was by 0.6 seconds. Personally I felt it wasn't safe to stop. On my p's so can't really afford 3 demerits. Anyway just wondering if its worth trying to get outta it?
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![]() Being P's though less chance ...... haven't had time to get a good record in place but still worth the punt
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Join Date: Dec 2004
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FF.Com.Au Hardcore
Join Date: May 2011
Location: NSW
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Yeah Jack i think its worth appealing it for sure, just send them a nice letter explaining why you think they should drop it and that it wasnt safe to stop.
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Regular Schmuck
Join Date: Dec 2004
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What about it made you feel it was unsafe to stop?
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FF.Com.Au Hardcore
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Pit Lane
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How long is the amber light to warn you a red light is about to light up?
That's what I'd ask you in return if I was appealing your question so expect the worse. good luck
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FF.Com.Au Hardcore
Join Date: May 2010
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I would dispute it, just because you can. The worst they could say is no.
But the old, it was not safe trick does not work. Basically the orange light stays on between 3 to 5 seconds. The trigger for the red light camera only gets activated once the light turns red. so the whole argument of not stopping because you did not think it was safe does not usually work. Technically you can get fined for running an orange. You are better off saying that this is your first offence, you do not have much money you have part time job, your sorry for the offence, and such. |
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Join Date: Nov 2006
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Unless the road/weather conditions affected you in stopping, I dont like your chances at all. 0.6 seconds was when your front wheels crossed the line after the light went red and you had to still clear the intersection after that.... Good Luck and interested to find out the decision - keep us informed.
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Join Date: Jun 2007
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they take a dim view on red light camera fines
in vic, you can have a fine withdrawn and replaced by an official warning, but generally not for red light cameras, talking on phone and other serious offences they may let you off on a red light camera in vic, but it seems only in some circumstances http://www.police.vic.gov.au/content...ument_id=10369 here is the link. obviously if you are not in victoria, it doesn't help anyway, but it may give you an idea on what you are up against personally, with the limited knowledge i have, if you missed it by over half a second, i would not fight it. by all means, ask the relevant questions before paying, but i don't think i would risk going to court for it |
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Join Date: Dec 2007
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Go to court please guilty say ur penance but ask the judge to remove the demerit points and increase ur fine appropriately that's what I did in s.a u learn a lesson but keep ur points the gov gets the money the judge feels good for some leniate sentenceing and the fact u owned up and admitted it was stupid everybody wins
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FF.Com.Au Hardcore
Join Date: Jan 2010
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Especially if loss of license will cause undue hardship like loss of job/income and rental eviction...
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To punish and enslave
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Mornington Peninsula, Victoria
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Magistrates cannot remove demerit points. |
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Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Carrum Downs, Victoria
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on you p's and already running reds? I can't say this situatiin looks good for you.
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Join Date: Mar 2006
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costs nothing to send the letter and ask the question!
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What normally then happens is that (hopefully) the P-plater will learn and stop running reds. I've ran a few earlier on when I got my P's and then realised it's very stupid of me and inconsiderate of others driving (could kill them) so I stopped and I don't run any reds at all. We shouldn't hold it against him though, because I guarantee you yourself have run a red at some point, even by sheer accident. |
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Rack it up to experience. Courts take a very dim view to red light runners.
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Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Victoria
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In Vic a letter won't get you off a red, only for speeding, where abouts are you?
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FF.Com.Au Hardcore
Join Date: Oct 2010
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In vic so I'm pretty much stuffed :P
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FF.Com.Au Hardcore
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Central Coast, NSW
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Running a red is a very dangerous thing to do.
Just cop it, your lucky you only got a fine... |
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Join Date: Dec 2004
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Take responsibility for your own actions.
The sooner people do this, the better this world will be become. |
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FF.Com.Au Hardcore
Join Date: Jun 2005
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Don't waste your time, it's not like you have a 10 or 20 year unblemished driving record. You're not even off your Ps...
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Join Date: May 2011
Location: Vic, Ormond
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got a speeding ticket, first offence like you. My situation was long story short, being tail gated to sped up a couple kms just to keep the peace. Got done. went in to look at the picture, wrote a letter then and there, said thinks like accelerating out of danger ect, told the truth, got it downgraded to a warning. Cant hurt, good luck.
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Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: In a house
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Love how some on here are giving the OP grief for running a red. They've acknowledged they were silly, so why sink the boot in? Make yourselves feel good?
To the OP. I can't say whether you'll get off or not, but congrats for manning up to your mistake and you seem as though you've learnt from it. Pity some people on this forum can't see it. So good luck and keep us informed.
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Join Date: Dec 2004
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While I didn't give grief, I've seen first hand what can happen running a red. I believe it turned out to be a double fatality. I've also been in an accident from someone running a red, other car's passenger hospitalised from hitting her head on the B pillar, I received concussion and written off car - that I wish I still owned today.
I'm still interested in why the OP felt it unsafe to stop...? |
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FF.Com.Au Hardcore
Join Date: Oct 2010
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Doesn't bother me that people give grief, not like many people have a perfect record.
Didn't want the hassle of going through fighting it, just paid it nd took the points. Well it was on sparks and princess just down from the Ford factory in geelong ironically enough and there was a ceva truck behind that had pulled out of ford. Didn't want the truck up my **** as they are massive. |
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FF.Com.Au Hardcore
Join Date: May 2010
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Even tho you paid the fine. Send a letter, you never know.
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335 - STILL THE BOSS ...
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Melb East
Posts: 11,421
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Fine paid ..... all done and dusted. I am sure Jack960 would like to move on from this ..... cheers.
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