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[PTRSEN]

hey guys need help...i wonnar give my au ute abit more power and grunt...
whats a cheap and easy way to do it?

[Lightning Strike XR6]

Head over to the Au section mate.

Is it a 6 or 8?

Done anything to it at this stage? Budget?

[PTRSEN]

cheers mate
its a 6 duel fuel so far just thrown a set of mags on it tinted the windows..wonnar spend as little as possible but probably a thousand max...
i'v looked into flash tunning it but i dont think its gonna give it much more power...

[Bam]

A thousand max! I can't wait for the usual unsubstantiated claims of increased power that you can gain from cold air intakes, K&N filters, exhausts and (if we are really lucky) electric blowers.

[IH8HSV]

Hard to get any real big power gains without adding a turbo or changing the internals.

However I suggest: A high flow cat and a Cold air intake system to begin with. I wouldnt go out and spend big dollars on a whole exhaust system. I may get shot for this - but I have never really been convinced that a huge exhaust system gives any extra power which you can notice.

You can also get a regrinded cam ( wade cams ) which arnt all that expensive, and have provided some moderate power gains for some forum members.

Can also play with the ratios in the diff to give more low end power.

[Day-mow]

i'd suggest a cold air intake set up. it'll cost you squat all and is proven to get you about 3 or so RWKW
http://autospeed.com/cms/title_Negat...8/article.html
that link will help with that.

if you want cheap. get a shelf 2.5 exhaust system. can pick them up for around 250 if you search ebay enough and they do pretty well.

as stated a reground cam from wade will give you a bit of performance. however would be useless with out anyother mods. so i'd make it the last thing u get. also while i think alot of them say no tuning is required i think you'll find that it'll run at its best with some tuning. but thats up to you tho

[Cookie-XR8]

Turbo it. Save about 7k and go for gold

[Stattic]

i find it hard to believe you honestly think an exhaust system will do nothing
take a look at the stock headers and take a look at a set of extractors and tell me they wont flow a great deal better
the cat isnt really that restrictive until you start modding or unless its damaged
the factory catback is ok if you have a fully stock exhaust but of course you want something that sounds nice and has better flowing mufflers, you wont gain much power with simply a catback but its a must if you want extractors

a full system done at a good price (there are bargains to be had, shop around or do it yourself) will set you back around a grand, then add in pod/panel filter, cut the front out of your air box (free) both will give you a bit more noise and will breathe better

if you want to spend no more than a grand i wouldnt even think about diff ratio change, high stall or anything like that


or you could get a transmission cooler, catback, air filter and still be on the cheap and reliable side
POELWYK on here went from a stocker to a full exhaust in his duel fuel forte and his car drives much much better now, if you do it all at once you will feel the most gain and probably feel the most satisfied about it

[AU1monty]

Originally Posted by Day-mow

i'd suggest a cold air intake set up. it'll cost you squat all and is proven to get you about 3 or so RWKW
http://autospeed.com/cms/title_Negat...8/article.html
that link will help with that.

if you want cheap. get a shelf 2.5 exhaust system. can pick them up for around 250 if you search ebay enough and they do pretty well.

as stated a reground cam from wade will give you a bit of performance. however would be useless with out anyother mods. so i'd make it the last thing u get. also while i think alot of them say no tuning is required i think you'll find that it'll run at its best with some tuning. but thats up to you tho

I had a look at the link, would you be able to do that on a dual fuel car without all the sensors and other crap for the LPG getting in the way

[Day-mow]

Originally Posted by AU1monty

I had a look at the link, would you be able to do that on a dual fuel car without all the sensors and other crap for the LPG getting in the way

im not to sure. to an aspect i would assume so. but. i dont know where all the sensors are as i use petty and not cooking fuel :P

there would be certain things you could do to improve flow where you could. perhaps not all the way thru tho. look in to an exhaust and an air intake. seriously intake will cost you squat all. and you'll notice gains i promise. more so with extractors.

[XR_6falcon]

Originally Posted by Day-mow

im not to sure. to an aspect i would assume so. but. i dont know where all the sensors are as i use petty and not cooking fuel :P

there would be certain things you could do to improve flow where you could. perhaps not all the way thru tho. look in to an exhaust and an air intake. seriously intake will cost you squat all. and you'll notice gains i promise. more so with extractors.

An air intake will do squat if theres a mixer ring restricting airflow...

[Day-mow]

really? well i'll stand corrected.
another reason why LPG is for cooking and not driving

[Stattic]

find a dedicated gas throttle body, my understanding is they are a little hard to find but get rid of a big restriction
also note if you want extractors you will need the 4499s (low-mid range torque, top end improved of course but not as much as the tuned length 4480s) as 4480s wont fit a mixer setup.

[au adam]

My ded gas ute destroyed my front muffler through backfiring(fixed now)so i chose to not replace it and just fill the gap with straight pipe,im suprised how much better it goes now and seems to rev quicker too.Its no louder than before and i now just have the one rear muffler.

[crunchbunty]

Paint it red

[Day-mow]

Originally Posted by crunchbunty

Paint it red

haha win

[PTRSEN]

so flash tunning will do stuff all then?

[Day-mow]

with out mods yes

[blueoval]

It depends on who is doing the work. If you can do stuff yourself, you can win. If your paying someone to do it, you wont get much done.

[The Monty]

$1000 hey.....
http://www.fordforums.com.au/showthread.php?t=11291568
Cam and chiptorque chip - $300, up to 15kw, 20 with a tune.
http://www.fordforums.com.au/showthread.php?t=11291446
Pacie comps - $270 - 5-10kw
http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ea-eb-ed-ef-e...4#ht_500wt_975
Lukey 2 and a half inch cat back - $200 - 5kw, dont worry about it being press bent, it will be fine.
http://www.fordforums.com.au/showthread.php?t=11284742
Ballistic cat - $170 - maybe 2kw, but will compliment the system.
http://cgi.ebay.com.au/K-N-AIR-FILTE...#ht_2493wt_958
KandN panel filter - $84
Cut the front out the airbox - Free
All up - $1024 - Youd end up with a high 14 second car, around the 135kw mark.
Save another $400 and get it tuned, and it will be around the 140kw mark.

[blueoval]

Originally Posted by The Monty

$1000 hey.....
http://www.fordforums.com.au/showthread.php?t=11291568
Cam and chiptorque chip - $300, up to 15kw, 20 with a tune.
http://www.fordforums.com.au/showthread.php?t=11291446
Pacie comps - $270 - 5-10kw
http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ea-eb-ed-ef-e...4#ht_500wt_975
Lukey 2 and a half inch cat back - $200 - 5kw, dont worry about it being press bent, it will be fine.
http://www.fordforums.com.au/showthread.php?t=11284742
Ballistic cat - $170 - maybe 2kw, but will compliment the system.
http://cgi.ebay.com.au/K-N-AIR-FILTE...#ht_2493wt_958
KandN panel filter - $84
Cut the front out the airbox - Free
All up - $1024 - Youd end up with a high 14 second car, around the 135kw mark.
Save another $400 and get it tuned, and it will be around the 140kw mark.

They are certainly some bargains. But unless he knows how to fit the lot himself, he will be up for a bigger bill than that.

[AU1monty]

Originally Posted by Stattic

find a dedicated gas throttle body, my understanding is they are a little hard to find but get rid of a big restriction
also note if you want extractors you will need the 4499s (low-mid range torque, top end improved of course but not as much as the tuned length 4480s) as 4480s wont fit a mixer setup.

i was under the impression the throttle body was big enough to not cause a restriction as all, the lpg has a sensor, or at least i assume its a sensor right in the mouth of the air intake, which seems pretty stupid to me, i was wondering if gettin a larger snorkle would affect the lpg mix due to a larger diametre for air entry and sensing a different amount of air to whats actually entering, and if you did is it easy enough to drill a hole through and reposition it

anyone here work as an lpg fitter?

[The Monty]

Originally Posted by blueoval

They are certainly some bargains. But unless he knows how to fit the lot himself, he will be up for a bigger bill than that.

Only thing I see as being a problem is the exhaust, and they would out that on for $100. My cam thread is easy enough to follow, and the intake is a no brainer. The chip shouldnt be too hard either, just an Email to chiptorque and they will help out.