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In fairness though, you are talking about the Chinese economy and linking it too Australia. You cited high private debt and export exposure to China as risk factors.

I was just trying to point out that on current GDP figures China is doing ok, which makes your argument weak. If private debt is your concern then I just offered a more likely scenario that a downturn in the US economy is a more realistic threat to the Australian economy atm.

That's how a discussion takes place. You put up a hypothesis and people discuss it. Just saying that if the Chinese economy goes south so will Australia's is not much of a dialogue. If my aunty had balls she'd be my uncle.

And to get back on topic Clinton offered more of the same Obama policies and Trump was offering a jobs focus with promises to cut red tape and lower company taxes. The stock market atm likes his plans but that can change.
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LOL what happened to make America GRATE again? Did he run out of cheese?

The man is a desperate egomaniac who runs week to week on public opinion.
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LOL what happened to make America GRATE again? Did he run out of cheese?

The man is a desperate egomaniac who runs week to week on public opinion.
Good luck with that!
Well that doesn't surprise me one bit if he operates on a week-to-week basis, you gave him 2 months remember?


And the Winning continues! Even under the current global mess the markets are solid, Team Trumps ratings are up and border crossings are at a 17-year low!!!

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The winning continues?!

If this is what winning looks like, I'd hate to see losing.
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http://www.dailywire.com/news/15469/...ign=dwtwitter#

It’s the biggest story in the history of world politics and makes Watergate look like a minor felony.
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It’s the biggest story in the history of world politics and makes Watergate look like a minor felony.
The first comment under that article - just need one decent whistle-blower.

Briefly back to the Sea of Japan and the surrounding area. Nothing like a pep talk to the fire up the Boyz:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QtC_QW6NoTg



I'd hate to be on the receiving end of this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CF5A...GkiGYNgQOBXgCA

And that's just one battle-group, the Pentagon can call on about 10 in total if needed (Fleet Carrier) - and I believe one more is doing sea trials and another being constructed - plus under Trumps Military Budget the Navy will be expanded again by at least 30%.
And what you don't see in that video is whats in the sky, and more importantly, whats under the fleet, or close by - always at least 1 attack or nuclear sub hitching along for the ride.




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The first comment under that article - just need one decent whistle-blower.

Briefly back to the Sea of Japan and the surrounding area. Nothing like a pep talk to the fire up the Boyz:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QtC_QW6NoTg



I'd hate to be on the receiving end of this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CF5A...GkiGYNgQOBXgCA

And that's just one battle-group, the Pentagon can call on about 10 in total if needed (Fleet Carrier) - and I believe one more is doing sea trials and another being constructed - plus under Trumps Military Budget the Navy will be expanded again by at least 30%.
And what you don't see in that video is whats in the sky, and more importantly, whats under the fleet, or close by - always at least 1 attack or nuclear sub hitching along for the ride.




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Nice Russian submarine there, is Donald hitching a ride on that one ?
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Nice Russian submarine there, is Donald hitching a ride on that one ?
Nope, that's long gone, K-141 Kursk.
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The first comment under that article - just need one decent whistle-blower.

Briefly back to the Sea of Japan and the surrounding area. Nothing like a pep talk to the fire up the Boyz:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QtC_QW6NoTg



I'd hate to be on the receiving end of this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CF5A...GkiGYNgQOBXgCA

And that's just one battle-group, the Pentagon can call on about 10 in total if needed (Fleet Carrier) - and I believe one more is doing sea trials and another being constructed - plus under Trumps Military Budget the Navy will be expanded again by at least 30%.
And what you don't see in that video is whats in the sky, and more importantly, whats under the fleet, or close by - always at least 1 attack or nuclear sub hitching along for the ride.




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Trump appreciates your kind words but I'm trying to think of similar wars (against small countries) that the US has won previously


Two in that very region spring to mind and the results

Korea; No
Vietnam: No

And then there's their efforts in the Middle East, more fails for them
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Trump appreciates your kind words but I'm trying to think of similar wars (against small countries) that the US has won previously


Two in that very region spring to mind and the results

Korea; No
Vietnam: No

And then there's their efforts in the Middle East, more fails for them
Not kind words, just facts.

Hard to win with one hand tied behind your back.
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The Daily Wire ?

https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/the-daily-wire/
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I'm not claiming the daily Wire is anything but a conservative website. It doesn't claim to be non-partisan such as politifact.

At the same time most of its contributor's are highly critical of Trump but from a conservative perspective.

Gasolane if you would like to refute anything in that article as not being anything but the truth then be my guest.

Let’s run down the timeline on events to date. A post doing the rounds.

Dems accused Trump of being a Russian spy
Bull**** dossier leaked by Buzzfeed, suggesting Trump hired Russian hookers to **** on him. It was proven to be a hoax.Trump hit back with Obama wire tapped me
Media goes ape****, ridiculing Trump for making claim
Rep. Schiff (D) in the news every day, calling for Russian investigation
Rep. Nunes (R) reveals that something had gone awry with intelligence surveillance on team Trump
Media doubles down on discrediting the idea that Obama could spy on Trump
Judge Nap says British intelligence spied on Trump, gave intel to Obama
Evelyn Farkas says in interview that she advised the intelligence agencies to preserve Trump-Russian intel
Right wing media foams from the mouth, asking how Farkas had access to intelligence while working for Clinton campaign
Media admits Trump was spied on via ‘incidental’ gathering via foreign agencies
Judge Nap vindicated. Media fails to apologize
Rep. Schiff vanishes from the spotlight
Cernovich reveals that Susan Rice ordered unmasking of Trump in ‘incidental’ gathering
Susan Rice confirms she had done this as part of her job
The Guardian reveals British and six other nations were spying on Trump
Washpo reveals FISA warrant was ordered to spy on Trump advisor, Carter Page
***TONIGHT: The FBI based their FISA warrant on discredited and comically produced ‘dossier’ to spy on Trump***

Now that you’re up to speed, CNN is reporting that James Comey based his FISA warrant on the ****gate dossier, a flaccid report put together using intel provided by pranksters on the Hitler loving website, 4 Chan.

****ing embarrassing.

Carter Page issued this statement, in response to the findings

“I look forward to the Privacy Act of 1974 lawsuit that I plan to file in response to the civil rights violations by Obama administration appointees last year. The discovery process will be of great value to the United States, as our nation hears testimony from them under oath and we receive disclosure of the documents which show what exactly was done in 2016.”

Why is this significant? Without having credible intel asserting that Trump had Russian ties, the house of cards collapses on Obama — who will be laid bare for having ordered spying be done on team Trump for political purposes.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qV6dmTsO8aw

CNN discussing the dossier and FISA

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Gasolane if you would like to refute anything in that article as not being anything but the truth then be my guest.
I couldn't be bothered.
But when an 'Editor' publishes stuff like this his honesty standing isn't exactly great.

http://www.snopes.com/democrats-stand-seal-widow/

http://www.politifact.com/punditfact...-are-radicals/
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It’s the biggest story in the history of world politics and makes Watergate look like a minor felony.


The Daily Wire eh...

Moderately to strongly biased toward conservative causes through story selection and/or political affiliation, utilizing strongly loaded words (wording that attempts to influence an audience by using appeal to emotion or stereotypes), publish misleading reports and omit reporting of information that may damage conservative causes. Known to cite untrustworthy sources.

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A politically conservative American news and OPINION website founded in 2015 by conservative political commentator Ben Shapiro, who presents news with a right wing bias in reporting and wording. The Daily Wire has also been known to publish false information.



After reading all that the most interesting and revealing reading was the comments section - American Idiot much.


LOL - Gasolane beat me to it, should have read to the end first eh - the whole piece is speculative and conjectural and basically a view point reading between the lines. I don't necessarily disagree with it but it shouldn't be presented, portrayed and cited as a proven factual piece.
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It’s the biggest story in the history of world politics and makes Watergate look like a minor felony.
The national media has dropped stories on links between Russia and Trump!? Really? My news feed is full of followup, including more confirmations of the accuracy of the MI-6 dossier. I wonder how long we'll have to wait for the peegate videos to surface?

https://www.businessinsider.com.au/c...17-4?r=US&IR=T

The biggest story in the history of world politics is espionage by other countries? I hate you tell you, this is common practice in the digital age.

There was a legally obtained FISA warrant on one of Trump's advisors carried out and renewed a number of times.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/n...411-story.html

..and with the 100 day yardstick fast approaching, Spicer was asked about Trump's legislative accomplishments..

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It’s the biggest story in the history of world politics and makes Watergate look like a minor felony.
lol, do you realise how intelligence gathering works?

EVERY phonecall pretty much everywhere in the world gets recorded.

EVERY webpage where you can comment, such as this very page gets monitored.

There are banks of supercomputers that sort through this information and if it gets flagged (keywords) it will continue up the chain to where if it's applicable a human will look at it.

I can understand how you might not know this, but a journalist! haha.
Keep reading I'm sure you will find more salacious stuff at that site.

Fun fact. All that information is stored in Israel.
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Talking of conservative websites...

How is Fox going today?

Megyn Kelly is probably sipping champagne as I type.
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I probably should add a link.

http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment...legations.html

cos this is fun!
Had to laugh that he went on holiday to visit the pope.
A bit too late for that now Bill...Lucifer just stoked his fire.
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cos this is fun!
Had to laugh that he went on holiday to visit the pope.
A bit too late for that now Bill...Lucifer just stoked his fire.
Of course, Trump defended him.

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In the era of 'alternative facts', please provide your definition of 'winning'.
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Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience

I reckon this line from CJR09 pretty much sums up this thread.
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Its all a bit tongue in cheek now innit
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Pack your Thermos and sammiches Fella's there's work to be done!






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Well this is great for US steel, if any of President Trump’s assertions come to fruition.

At the same time sticking it up the Chinese!!

Win Win?!

Hang on a minute!?

Where does China buy the raw materials for much of its manufacturing?

From AUSTRALIA.

If the Chinese economy gets a cold, the Australian economy will be in intensive care for a long time.

What may be good for America may be very bad for Australia.
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President Imbecile, ****ing off one ally at a time.
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President Imbecile, ****ing off one ally at a time.
Trumps world...where lying is the truth apparently.

Might be a bit different now with his backer in chief gone into hiding...oops he's with the pope confessing.
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