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"It might sound like an odd fit at first glance, but the company behind Holden Special Vehicles has announced its intention buy a share of a caravan manufacturer.
The deal, between Walkinshaw Automotive Group and New Age Caravans, is expected to be consummated within a month after 12 months of discussion. Walkinshaw Automotive Group (WAG) not only owns Holden hot tuner HSV, but also converts RAM trucks to right-hand drive via its American Special Vehicles joint-venture with Ateco Automotive. It also distributes Indian Tata vehicles in Australia, runs a Supercars race team, is behind the Walkinshaw Performance modification business and performs a significant amount of ‘below the line’ engineering, design and development work for various automotive manufacturers. New Age is a growing Australian caravan brand established seven years ago. It is based in Epping in Victoria, where it currently builds more than 2000 caravans per year. It is number two in the market, albeit still a long way behind the market leader Jayco, which builds around 10,000 caravans per year. New Age Caravans will continue to be led by Gabby Montagnese as managing director and Chair. “Our partnership with Walkinshaw strengthens our ability to grow and bring new and exciting product lines to our customers,” she said. “Walkinshaw’s experience will help us to accelerate our focus on growth and innovation in caravans – including new materials, engineering and processes.” “We looked at different structures to bring a partnership approach to life, and decided that Walkinshaw taking a significant stake in New Age Caravans made a lot of sense because of the position we have been able to establish in the market, and the unique skills and capabilities they can bring to the table.” A statement issued yesterday shed some light on the unusual collaboration, stating the two companies had “a shared vision of innovation in products, materials, and technologies for the caravan and RV sector.” “Passion and creativity are at the heart of every caravan New Age builds – just as it is for every vehicle Walkinshaw creates for our loyal customer base,” said WAG owner Ryan Walkinshaw. “With our niche automotive experience and a shared focus on R&D from both companies, customers can expect to see some exciting innovations to their caravan and camping lifestyle. “We are great admirers of what Gabby has been able to achieve, and taking a stake in New Age is a clear signal of our desire to build on what has already been achieved, and a belief in our ability to assist in the next phase of growth for New Age Caravans.” http://www.motoring.com.au/hsv-owner...anning-104281/
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No we know which direction HSV are taking post-Commodore ... Holden Special Vacationers
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With more grey nomads on the road than ever before, it's probably one of the only growth industries left in Australia. I call that smart a smart business decision.
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^ I disagree. The caravan industry has never been in such turmoil, shops and brands open and close at a rapid place, cheap Chinese rubbish is destroying established brands. Given this, I think HSV's plans seem to be completely stupid.
Grey Nomads are amongst the tightest bunch of people you will meet, the days where they could live off the interest from their super balances are gone. They will buy cheap knowing it can be thrown away if needed. |
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http://www.caravanindustry.com.au/category/research Caravan Registrations Have Increased by 30% in Australia Date: 21 October 2016 Caravan Industry Association of Australia has released the BDO Caravan and Campervan Data Report for 2016 that highlights the growing popularity of caravanning and camping around Australia. The number of … Younger Travellers Make Caravanning and Camping the Holiday of Choice Date: 15 September 2016 Tourism Research Australia (TRA) data released today shows the largest growth in the history of data collection for domestic caravanning and camping trips. And it’s the younger demographic groups that …
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Missus and I bought a Coromal Appeal 554S delivery next month...so, we will be out on the highways!!
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Guess anothervreason of the duel cab and suv sales.
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Does this mean we will start seeing "walkingshaw enhanced" badges on the back of caravans?
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Yep it is expanding on the back of cheap Chinese stuff. You can buy 4-6 cheap Chinese campers for the price of one half decent Aussie build camper. Established Aussie made vans are struggling and manufacturing is closing down. Do a search on caravan manufactures in liquidation, go to a camping show, ask how long the business has been operational and where it gets its product from. Walkinshaw seems to diversifying into anything hoping that something will work and keep them afloat.
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Thats where good money is for my business. Its also something we have put onto the table as a consideration is actually trying to make a caravan as well. |
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Name the Chinese built caravans. On a last note Jayco Sales (local manufacturer) is booming. |
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Tassie f100 : Bailey, UK caravan manufacturer now build in Australia to Australian conditions. Last year took two vans across Australia, mix bitumen/outback roads. Nothing broke. Likewise Adria and Swift have strengthened their vans for Aussie roads. Not for extreme off roading.
http://baileyaustralia.com.au/west2east-challenge/ http://www.ezytrailcampertrailers.co...iler-paradigm/ about Chinese camper trailers
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There are 18 Caravan builders in Cambellfield Vic, my son does the install on the finishing so much work, enough work to hop from one company to another.
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They have also changed over to the chinese suspension kits, apparently the quality is hit and miss but the supplier does exchange them if the boys aren't happy with it.
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cheap, considering you have a pretty strong opinion on the subject can you enlighten us what you know to make such points ie the industry is up the creek, the quality isn't up to scratch for eg.
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If you are incapable of using the resources of the internet then go to the next camping show and ask. Last edited by cheap; 06-11-2016 at 11:09 PM. |
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http://www.grandcruiser.com.au/gc-1550/
http://aoxinda.en.made-in-china.com/...a-Caravan.html 2min on google. Actually, I said 2min to make you feel better. it actually took around 20sec to find that. And there are a couple of camper trailer brands that are selling Chinese made campers in Sydney, I cant recall the name, but it was no secret when they were less than half the price. After the Mirage Campers debacle, I'd be hesitant about dropping $50k on 'Aus quality' .... |
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Read the item and related comments, many horror stories, anything from cracked chassis, significantly overweight vans, failed brakes, failed warranty repairs, many shops open and close, for such an expensive item consumer protection is really **** poor. If you don't take my word, then sign up to myswag or bushtracker forums and have a read, if you think everyone is lying then seek wisdom from trublu ![]() |
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Well, imo its not just the Industry that needs to lift its game in this day and gae its the buyers, that classic you get what you pay for ! Our country has become price merchants for a long time now. People complain our Industries are disappearing yet at the same time don't wish to pay for quality ! as we once did.
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The company my son works for use Aussie made suspension, I sent him a text so I could find out.
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Yes suspension components are part of the Chinese/Overseas trailer invasion. For example Ironman make a range of bolt in suspension cradles V's Australian Sugar Glider suspension or G&S Chassis components - bottom line comes down to price. There are also plenty of overseas leaf springs, under sized hangers, non serviceable items and dodgey wheel bearings available.
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Chinese camper trailers have all but destroyed the quality Australian-made CT market. It makes sense that the local caravan manufacturers will face the same problems. So the suggestion that Walkinshaw is buying into trouble is logical.
I've been a CT user for 6 years and active on the myswag.org forum for as long, so I've been watching the demise of the local CT industry for a while now. My CT is a Jimboomba, formerly one of the top 5 Aussie manufacturers, defunct for 3 years now. Along with Camel, Vacation, Trackabout and other top shelf companies. I'd say the only local caravan outfit that will come out shining is Kedron, but they build serious offroad caravans that the Chinese will never approach for reliability and strength. That's who Walkinshaw should have invested in.
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