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Old 10-10-2019, 02:26 PM   #1
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Is this just a standard engine with a blower bolted on? The aftermarket just bolt on superchargers and run 500kw on stock bottom ends, but I would have thought that Ford would, at the very least, de-compress the engine from what it runs N/A.
Yep standard engine. No need to strengthen it. It passes all Fords normal durability standards just like the FRPP supercharger package does. The Coyote is a tough motor. High compression isn't an issue with DI and VCT. Can bleed off cylinder pressure if required through cam timing. Don't know if it actually does that, but it can.

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Sucks that they couldn't do ventures like this when they had Falcons though.
Ah, like the supercharged FPV's? And the special edition ones like the R spec and GT-F?

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I usually harp on about no manual option, it seems like an odd omission unless the auto can handle the torque?

Its a great package, perfectly timed and to be honest executed. Nice!

Id still rather a voodoo!
Auto handles well over 1000nm in the F series 6.7 powerstroke V8. Handling the torque isn't a problem. Used in the Camaro ZL1 as well, which is similar torque. I think it's more likely requiring a full gearbox re-calibration to suit the supercharged motor is more the issue, cost wise. IMO.
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Yep standard engine. No need to strengthen it. It passes all Fords normal durability standards just like the FRPP supercharger package does. The Coyote is a tough motor. High compression isn't an issue with DI and VCT. Can bleed off cylinder pressure if required through cam timing. Don't know if it actually does that, but it can.



Ah, like the supercharged FPV's? And the special edition ones like the R spec and GT-F?



Auto handles well over 1000nm in the F series 6.7 powerstroke V8. Handling the torque isn't a problem. Used in the Camaro ZL1 as well, which is similar torque. I think it's more likely requiring a full gearbox re-calibration to suit the supercharged motor is more the issue, cost wise. IMO.
Were those cars a collaboration that took the local product and turned it in to something else factory backed?
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Were those cars a collaboration that took the local product and turned it in to something else factory backed?
Yes, between Ford and Prodrive/Premcar. Even Tickford before that.
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Auto handles well over 1000nm in the F series 6.7 powerstroke V8.
standard 10R80 is only rated to 800Nm though isn't it? Superduty must have a stronger one
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standard 10R80 is only rated to 800Nm though isn't it? Superduty must have a stronger one
I have it from a Ford US Trans expert that the 80 is 800 lb ft input torque, not 800 nm.

Yes, there's a 10R140 coming for Super Duty that begins production next Month but the
10R80 is capable of handling a S/C 5.0 Coyote but it's not up to the 6.7 V8 diesel's 1,000 lb ft.
The auto's strength wasn't the problem for R-Spec, the calibration was going to be harder and
most buyers wanted the MT anyway.

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Auto handles well over 1000nm in the F series 6.7 powerstroke V8. Handling the torque isn't a problem. Used in the Camaro ZL1 as well, which is similar torque. I think it's more likely requiring a full gearbox re-calibration to suit the supercharged motor is more the issue, cost wise. IMO.

I was thinking the same but I think this is just the start... no reason why they can't offer auto in the future.



In the future they can also look at having a different bumper design to further distinguish it from the standard GT. I don't think customers would mind paying a little extra for that.



Either that or Ford US get the idea that there actually is a viable RHD market for their Shelbys.
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I was thinking the same but I think this is just the start... no reason why they can't offer auto in the future.



In the future they can also look at having a different bumper design to further distinguish it from the standard GT. I don't think customers would mind paying a little extra for that.



Either that or Ford US get the idea that there actually is a viable RHD market for their Shelbys.
I bet they're waiting to see the GT500, I think it's getting an 8-speed DCT
as a compromise between auto and manual transmission.

What about 500 S/C Cobras, easy to do with white Mustang GTs.....

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