First experience .. Vic law regarding passing emergency vehicle

[prydey]

Originally Posted by borough

I have never said all truck drivers are cowboys.

Originally Posted by borough

Just reinforces my opinion that truck drivers are just unprofessional cowboys.

[MITCHAY]

Far out trucks drivers are far more regulated than ordinary drivers.

Every time there is an accident such as this the scrutiny is enormous(and it should be but it should also be fair) and we quickly forget all the dumb ****s running around everyday killing far more people than the odd truckie.

The only real difference between the two is with the massive amount of energy of a moving truck it has much bigger potential to turn out bad if they make a mistake or are stupid.

[jaydee]

Unfortunately you have tools like Turbo on Outback Truckers who get the drivers a bad name.

[Fed]

Don't ya just hate it when the overtaking car is sticking to the speed limit and only doing 1 or 2 KPH more than the cars he's passing.

Was that you borough?

[Franco Cozzo]

Mr Pusey and his shennanigans have fallen off the radar recently? Its like it was all over the news and now we're back to COVID-19 pandemic and thats that.

[prydey]

Originally Posted by Franco Cozzo

Mr Pusey and his shennanigans have fallen off the radar recently? Its like it was all over the news and now we're back to COVID-19 pandemic and thats that.

Aldi ran out of air fryers. Much bigger story

[Itsme]

Originally Posted by Franco Cozzo

Mr Pusey and his shennanigans have fallen off the radar recently? Its like it was all over the news and now we're back to COVID-19 pandemic and thats that.

You will here soon enough! it was reported in the paper the other day he is in preparation to make bail.
Apparently he is taken notes of his suppose mistreatment in remand.

[Full Noise]

Originally Posted by Franco Cozzo

Mr Pusey and his shennanigans have fallen off the radar recently? Its like it was all over the news and now we're back to COVID-19 pandemic and thats that.

Yeah, there was an interesting story a bit over a week ago, Friday 1/5/20 on Seven news that showed just how low the media will go to set the narrative.
The story was about some emails sent to the Whitehorse Council some years ago by Mr Pusey. The story seems to have disappeared from the Seven News website, however, other sites still have it up.

https://www.news.com.au/national/vic...0d2bfe269d4164

That fact that this has absolutely nothing to do with the crash, show’s that it is a blatant attempt of character assassination and to simply reinforce in the public arena that Mr Pusey really is the bad guy.

If the mainstream media actually had some brains, they’d stick to reporting the “known facts” of the case and leave everything else until after the trial. Mr Pusey’s lawyer will be loving this.

Originally Posted by Officemanager

You will here soon enough! it was reported in the paper the other day he is in preparation to make bail.
Apparently he is taken notes of his suppose mistreatment in remand.

Yep, and this is why they must be careful otherwise they’ll fall on their backside and he will most likely get bail. He must be treated properly in remand and they “must guarantee” his safety in custody. Mr Ashton was asked about his bail application the other day during a press conference and he said that they will be apposing bail because in their opinion, he “Pusey’s” offending was at the higher end of the scale. They are clutching at straws and it might work, but it might not either.

[Bossxr8]

Originally Posted by Franco Cozzo

Mr Pusey and his shennanigans have fallen off the radar recently? Its like it was all over the news and now we're back to COVID-19 pandemic and thats that.

Turns out pusey brah has done a 3 month stint previously for trying to blow up a pub. Got booted by security, so he snuck back in, grabbed a gas bottle from a gas heater and opened the valve.

The dudes got a few screws loose.

[Romulus]

Originally Posted by Bossxr8

Turns out pusey brah has done a 3 month stint previously for trying to blow up a pub. Got booted by security, so he snuck back in, grabbed a gas bottle from a gas heater and opened the valve.

The dudes got a few screws loose.

All the more reason the Courts will be lenient on this chap. Mental health issues.

[Itsme]

Originally Posted by Romulus

All the more reason the Courts will be lenient on this chap. Mental health issues.

That is ok as long he is being supervised/managed for his mental issues where the authorities can act in the interest of public safety.

[roKWiz]

I hope the cops "give him a hand down the stairs" if they have to let him out on bail.

[MercuryT]

Originally Posted by Romulus

All the more reason the Courts will be lenient on this chap. Mental health issues.

Maybe.

Things are changing in that regard as an easy "get out option" etc.

I'm no mechanic but I'm yes across this.

[prydey]

The truck driver would be pretty happy the Porsche guy is stealing the limelight. The Porsche guy is no role model (quite the opposite), but he played a relatively minor role in this incident.

[MercuryT]

I rarely go to Melbourne, but I've noticed Police far more aggressive than the Tassie force.

Not saying a bad thing (maybe it's required) just seem very bossy, enjoy power etc. Police here mostly casual and chat normally.

[Itsme]

Originally Posted by MercuryT

I rarely go to Melbourne, but I've noticed Police far more aggressive than the Tassie force.

Not saying a bad thing (maybe it's required) just seem very bossy, enjoy power etc. Police here mostly casual and chat normally.

If you think Vic police is aggressive wait till you visit the other states of Australia.

[MercuryT]

Originally Posted by Officemanager

If you think Vic police is aggressive wait till you visit the other states of Australia.

Yeah ok, fair enough.

I've just noticed a huge difference in Vic compared to Tas. VicPol seem to be very intimidating just imo.

If other States worse then it's a worry, but not my place to say right or wrong etc.

[mondeomatureguy]

I am from NSW and not from Victoria but was a Professional driver for 30 years
Driving Hire Cars in Sydney for five years and trucks for ten years.

I was so upset when I heard four Police officers died just because they attended a traffic matter that is so sad.
All my years of driving for a living I lost count off all the stupid things I have seen from stupid people on the road who don't think.

One that comes to mind was at the time I was driving a 13ton truck down the upper north shore and I was in the right lane just slowing down to get ready to turn right into Ryde Road at Pymble.

It was raining and at the last minute a car cut in on my lane and stoped. How I didn't run into the back of him I am not sure but I managed to stop.

My wife have traveled a lot driving holidays Victoria, Alice Springs, Qld, South Australia and we have never been pulled up by interstate Police so I cant really say what there like.

[Itsme]

Originally Posted by MercuryT

Yeah ok, fair enough.

I've just noticed a huge difference in Vic compared to Tas. VicPol seem to be very intimidating just imo.

If other States worse then it's a worry, but not my place to say right or wrong etc.

Actually I think the police here in Vic are less aggressive than they were years ago, I think I know how you feel since I visited Tassie a few years back, seen very little of police when I was there and you do not have the population we have here in Vic to warrant more police on the roads imo.
Cheers

[MercuryT]

Originally Posted by Officemanager

Actually I think the police here in Vic are less aggressive than they were years ago, I think I know how you feel since I visited Tassie a few years back, seen very little of police when I was there and you do not have the population we have here in Vic to warrant more police on the roads imo.
Cheers

Yeah probably spot on.

Always luck of the draw in who you get too as I'm sure all States have their easy going officers and the odd ***** who enjoys the power etc.

[Full Noise]

Originally Posted by Officemanager

Actually I think the police here in Vic are less aggressive than they were years ago.

This depends of a few things. One of the reasons “in my opinion” is that police now wear body cams. They are quite mindful of things said and the way they can be interpreted. HWP have recorded interceptions for years but now that every Vicpol member wears one, things have changed a bit.

It also depends on …
Why they pulled you over.
Who you are.
Who pulled you over, such as HVU, HWP, general duties, etc
Did you fail the attitude test?
Does your vehicle attract “unwanted” attention?

There’s also a lot of other reasons where you can be extremely “passionate” with them regarding their behaviour when the circumstances are not traffic related. Over the last four years I’ve have frequent dealings with many members and believe me, they stuff things up, and often. There’s an immense sense of satisfaction when a magistrate gives a uniformed member a dressing down for their “unprofessional” behaviour in court.

Remember, police are there to do a job, they are not your friends.

[zilo]

Originally Posted by MercuryT

Yeah ok, fair enough.

I've just noticed a huge difference in Vic compared to Tas. VicPol seem to be very intimidating just imo.

If other States worse then it's a worry, but not my place to say right or wrong etc.

Lived in Vic most of my life, now in Tassie.
Your instincts are correct...In Victoria it's all about revenue, traffic operations group are police that...well..are good for traffic...thats about it...and about as far as you can get without completing High school...
They are forever having to meet quotas to justify their jobs.
How would you feel spending all day ebry day in a Commodore...like a taxi driver? It would pizz off almost anyone.

but Tassie...no mass speed camera program...just cameras set with a forgiving margin in very obvious places....no stupid camouflaged vans at the bottom of hills.

Little known tourist friendly fact...interstate drivers usually given a warning if never detected before...including by actual police.

mate and I were running a bit late for the ferry cuppla years ago...130 in a 100 zone....out he came and pulled us over in the fully marked Subaru.

We explained we were late for the ferry...he said he wouldnt take long.
Came back and wrote "warning" on the ticket and asked us very nicely to please slow down as there had been a fatality there recently and was the reason he was patrolling the area.

wow...coming from Vic that really was something.

Later that night my mate played guitar on the boat and the harley angels or whatever were lining up beers for him..he had a big win he said to the gang.

one of them said "Phhtt..i was doing 160 and he let me off with a warning"


But we all slowed down...and that was the thing..we had our ONE warning as they recorded D/L numbers.

A year later I had 4 glasses of wine which usually puts me just under...but the wine was 18% i hadnt thought of that...so I had the redlight come up on the breathalyser.

He asked me if wouldn't mind sitting on the side for 45 minutes until my blood alcohol level went down bit?

Sheet yeah i said.....I have never done that again...never.

The point is that is genuine law enforcement not revenue raising.

[pottery beige]

Originally Posted by zilo

Lived in Vic most of my life, now in Tassie.
Your instincts are correct...In Victoria it's all about revenue, traffic operations group are police that...well..are good for traffic...thats about it...and about as far as you can get without completing High school...
They are forever having to meet quotas to justify their jobs.
How would you feel spending all day ebry day in a Commodore...like a taxi driver? It would pizz off almost anyone.

but Tassie...no mass speed camera program...just cameras set with a forgiving margin in very obvious places....no stupid camouflaged vans at the bottom of hills.

Little known tourist friendly fact...interstate drivers usually given a warning if never detected before...including by actual police.

mate and I were running a bit late for the ferry cuppla years ago...130 in a 100 zone....out he came and pulled us over in the fully marked Subaru.

We explained we were late for the ferry...he said he wouldnt take long.
Came back and wrote "warning" on the ticket and asked us very nicely to please slow down as there had been a fatality there recently and was the reason he was patrolling the area.

wow...coming from Vic that really was something.

Later that night my mate played guitar on the boat and the harley angels or whatever were lining up beers for him..he had a big win he said to the gang.

one of them said "Phhtt..i was doing 160 and he let me off with a warning"


But we all slowed down...and that was the thing..we had our ONE warning as they recorded D/L numbers.

A year later I had 4 glasses of wine which usually puts me just under...but the wine was 18% i hadnt thought of that...so I had the redlight come up on the breathalyser.

He asked me if wouldn't mind sitting on the side for 45 minutes until my blood alcohol level went down bit?

Sheet yeah i said.....I have never done that again...never.

The point is that is genuine law enforcement not revenue raising.

dont pay the ferry man

[MercuryT]

Just on Tas Police, my dear Mum was pulled over last year and had the following initial issue;

Talking on the phone whilst driving (very silly I agree).

Upon looking at Rego, the Officer then noticed Dad have forgotten to pay the recent bill - so it was an Unregistered vehicle also.

Finally, Mum is required to wear glasses when driving (noted on her license) and didn't have them on either as was a clear day. (can't see in dark too well)

Mum said very sorry and was told (amazingly)............. "to drive home immediately, fix the Rego before driving again, and consider this a stern caution Mrs (X). Have a good day."

True story even if sounds unrealistic I know. Mum hasn't been pulled over for years.

I couldn't believe it either and said to Mum was EXTREMELY LUCKY.......there is lots of points and fines there if he wanted to enforce them all!!! (as most Officers would no doubt)

[Citroënbender]

That’s a win. You get them sometimes!

[MercuryT]

Originally Posted by Citroënbender

That’s a win. You get them sometimes!

Yep I suspect a young person (especially if poor record) who backchatted etc rather just owning up at near 70, and saying sorry, the outcome vastly different!!!

[GasoLane]

Originally Posted by MercuryT

Yep I suspect a young person (especially if poor record) who backchatted etc rather just owning up at near 70, and saying sorry, the outcome vastly different!!!

Obviously Mum passed the attitude test

[MercuryT]

Originally Posted by GasoLane

Obviously Mum passed the attitude test

Haha.....yep My mum is barely 55kgs and quiet as.

Funny thing is (I know not cool for this forum but Mum LOVES it - drives a Red VXII manual SS Commodore in mint condition. People can't believe it....ha)

Her favourite possession. Redback exhaust only upgrade as standard way too quiet otherwise completely standard.

Hence where I get my love of cars from when growing up as Mum's older brother has owned an EH Holden from day 1. Also perfect condition and I suspect worth a bit these days..........

[MercuryT]

Here's Mum's....ha

[pottery beige]

Originally Posted by MercuryT

Here's Mum's....ha

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would limiter dump