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Hint: make the base model seem expensive, then people wont mind spending a bit more for a premium model. Especially when you're talking 3 year leases where the resale of the upper model will be a better percentage.
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![]() I think one of our members in WA has a 4x4 Canter as his daily - the Isuzu NPS comes in a 4500KG GVM as well which you can drive on car licence. Last edited by Franco Cozzo; 21-12-2022 at 01:32 PM. |
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A) Make a base model Ranger for government and fleet sales B) But price it well over the odds, so governments and fleets don't buy it, C) Even if they did want to buy it - we don't want to dedicate production capacity to making a lower profit model because we sell more high spec models at a better profit margin. Why even offer it in the Australian market at all? They don't even advertise it on their website either, you can't even build/price single cab Rangers. I haven't even seen a single one on the road so far. I think its a case of where Ford Australia wants to position itself in our market, its the premium option for a ute, they don't really want to make the povvo spec work vehicles, so why even offer it to our market? It seems like they're doing everything possible to sabotage it on purpose. |
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https://www.isuzu.com.au/Media/Isuzu...RK1443_V10.pdf Yet it only produces 114kw 419NM at fairly high revs for such a big displacement Diesel. strange engine
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Those sales are pretty much recession proof, and keep a steady buying base. |
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Yeah I know but its got less than a 2L Ranger
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The same engine comes in a higher state of tune in one of the other variations of those Isuzu trucks.
140KW/513NM in its other state of tune, its getting close to that VDJ79 that everyone loves ![]() I'm curious on the differences between the 4HK1-TCC and the 4HK1-TCR which is the limp wristed one. The same engine is also available in 154KW/726NM and 177KW/765NM: https://content.isuzu.com.au/news-me...ner-than-this/ Makes me wonder why its in limp wristed form a couple times there. Last edited by Franco Cozzo; 21-12-2022 at 03:05 PM. |
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You can't have it both ways, you can't have recession proof, steady buying base from these low spec models, if you don't actually make the vehicles for them to buy. |
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Buying used, even though mine had 90k's, immaculate one owner, no mods, still got 110k worth of soot and oil blocking the egr and intake.. |
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is virtually two years of FPV sales revenue. Maybe that’s an unfair comparison but Ford has really hit pay dirt with the new Ranger and promising signs for Everest. Give the right ute the right engines and buyers do the rest. Is VW releasing the 2.3 EB Amorok locally? If so, that might spark an interesting discussion……… Last edited by jpd80; 21-12-2022 at 07:14 PM. |
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Yes they are but only as an option in the highest model. It will be interesting to see how it goes. They are saying it has generated a lot of interest. Time will tell if that converts to sales. They might have nailed the timing with the price of diesel.
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What is happening to the 5 star rating of most of the competitors come Jan 1?
Don't they lose their 5 star rating? Does this push fleets and govt departments into buying the Ranger, Isuzu or Mazda? If so, it may be Ford laughing for the next year or so even on the pov packs. Not sure how this will play out with the Health & Safety Issue and 5 star rated cars.
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Only need to look at what they did to make LC70 comply.
Let's not do anything and just increase the GVM so the rules don't apply! LC70 wagon gvm increases by nearly 500kg! That's 1250kg payload!
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This is gonna be brutal for tradies who ordered something nine months ago and maybe excluded from client sites because no five star |
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The funny thing about this whole debate about XL and XLS selling is in the surrounding blocks to my house, there are 4 XL/XLS new Gen's, all white with 3 on them having service bodies on them, and zero models above XLS ie no XLT's, Wildtraks or Raptors yet. Heaps of those in P375, but none in P703 yet. That could be an availability thing though, my Wildtrak could still be a year away but I could get an XL/XLS tomorrow if I wanted one. |
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not what I asked though, would you be doing this to any diesel? or just the Ford.
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Wow can't believe 8 pages worth of comments regarding XL/XLS, didn't think there would be so much passion over base models?
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what's more surprising is it hasn't converted to another EV Thread
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I could get an XLT V6 straight away. My dealer even has an XLT V6 in Sedona Orange (my ordered colour) sitting in his showroom unsold, ready to go and has had it for at least a week. They also have a grey one arrived not yet with them unsold and a white one on the water. All unsold ready to go. He keeps bloody offering the Sedona Orange one to me for $70k D/a...lol
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Any used diesel would be clogged up with 110k's on it if it didnt have preventative measures from day 1, yes. The egr issue is due to failures on Rangers, not sure about other brands as its irrelevant to me. Point is, buying new for the same coin eliminates the cost of repairs thanks to the warranty so its just a case of install the catch can and drive it. Last edited by BENT_8; 22-12-2022 at 03:01 PM. |
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https://www.trucksales.com.au/items/...AG-AD-16699032 EDIT: Didn't notice that your listing was for 4x4 |
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