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I totally agree with Skafie, but a lot of people need more driver training, & not just new learners, but experienced drivers too, & the police need to be out there enforcing the rules & coming down hard on those who break them, before this would work.
I do totally agree that the amount of speed limit changes needs to be addressed (especially in NSW), & school zones have to go. Yes I may do less damage to a child hitting them at 40 kph, but the fact that I'll hit them without even seeing them because I'm watching my spedo & not the road is a real possibility. I do actually spend more time watching the spedo than the road while I'm driving though school zones & I'd say most law o biding people do. Same with 40 kph "high pedestrian areas". When I was young I was taught about the dangers of the road & how to cross it safely, why isn't that taught to kids any more? These speed limits may be fine if cars were driving on the footpath, but the don't (normally), so why do people insist on walking on the road? |
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For a recent example, got my licence in 2006, test lasted 10 mins of driving around and reverse park, back to vicroads, print licence... my test was over 20mins quicker than any friends of mine at the same age too. Not sure if it has changed but there really should be a minimum period of testing duration. Higher speed limits are a good idea 140km/h might be pushing it unless it for many people & older cars, which with Right lane syndrome in Australia is going to be a problem. I'd be happy with a boost to 120km/h on Freeways and boosted to 110km/h on Highways inline with SA & WA (can't speak for other states) |
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Higher speed limits are not the solution, eliminating bottle necks at either
end of the trip and shifting slow boof heads out of the right lane would be a far more practical solution to motorists' daily frustrations. The above would mean that governments and public servants would have to actually do something and spend money... Looks like the most practical solutions that eliminate problems also cut into government revenue. So I guess we're fated to suffer wind bag politics.... Last edited by jpd80; 14-06-2010 at 11:08 AM. |
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Couple of bonnet mounted rocket launchers would fix up the oblivious right lane idiots......
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Is there a link to the Channel 7 interview with Skaife anywhere? I missed it.
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http://au.tv.yahoo.com/sunday-night/video/#fop
There is also a poll on if enough is being done about speeding. If anything it should be asking if the 'right' things are being done and not blatant revenue raising etc. |
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Mention increasing speed limits and some people see wide open spaces and long distances. Higher limits will make a huge difference here. Others see short congested highway trips near major cities. Higher limits will do very little here. The loony car haters see (//) signs outside schools with kids being knocked over by sonic booms. It is all about perception and most people only ever think about where they regularly drive. They only want to solve their own problems and ignore others. Even in NT when the (//) was around it did not start until you were about 50km south of Darwin far away from any commuter traffic. In QLD the only sections of the Bruce Hwy that could safely use greater than 110 are Caboolture to Coory (and then Curra by 2015) and Rockhampton to Sarina. All of the rest of it is far too congested or has too many little towns and blind intersections. On the other hand once west of the Great Dividing Range the major highways could easily support higher speeds, long straight wide roads with little bush encroachment. I suspect the other states are fairly similar but as almost all of the politicians and "academic experts" live in the major cities that is all they ever see. Also there are many in power for whom any solution that reduces income is anathema and therefore will never be considered. It comes down to replacing the recalcitrant with those who are more receptive to new ideas. Remember when you vote and if we all push hard enough, in the word of Rachael Hunter, "It won't happen overnight but it will happen". |
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i am a believer that if your going to set a speed limit or then argue its merit in parliament to have any credibility you need to have DRIVEN it first.
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Couldnt have said it better myself.
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I sometimes wonder why a single-issue Drivers Party has not been set up, especially in NSW, where election to the Upper House is the easiest in Australia.
The idea would be in general to support the government of the day, of whatever complexion, but to bargain its vote to get progress on a small number issues of interest to drivers. You need only 4.55 per cent of the vote to win a seat in the NSW Upper House, the Legislative Council. (Here's how you work it out. Of the 42 seats, 21 come up for election every 4 years. So the quota for election to a single seat is 100/(21+1)=4.545. Like the Senate) |
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Just watched the video, I agree 100% with what he has put foreward in the story. But how many pollies and people have/will watch it?
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Increasing the average speed over most distances is key, we have situations where people say, travelling the Bruce highway cannot average 100 kph over their journey due to the myriad of small town bottle necks and local traffic, if more bypasses and overtaking lanes were made, things would be better. It's less about a 140 kph limit and more about 100 or 110kph uninterrupted... |
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the nanny state thread is an example. some people want to sue others for their own mistakes and yet complain that we are too regulated just recently a true nanny state issue rose in the sporting world and no body cared - why because it did not affect them, and yet it takes away our rights to free speech that we feel is so important the 2nd paragraph is off topic i know, but it is all relevant. nobody cares for anyone but themselves and as you pointed out earlier - the majority want higher limits - but do not want to look into their own skill levels, do not want to pay more money for licensing, do not want to take old cars off the road etc. etc. etc. |
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Yes I agree the Bruce is a mess but from about Dingo west there is no reason why 130 or more cannot be traveled. |
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Hi the only way it will happen will be when all of OZ brings in a licence test like the German example and a car replacement program of the same order and it has 20 to 30 years behind it so most of the drivers on the road can handle the speeds we do now then increase the speeds on suitable roads Australia wide. Unluckily Mark wont sell this to a politician and the pollies wont be able to sell it to the public. Cheers MD
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I knew it would finally happen, after waiting so many years Skaifey has finally said something worthwhile.
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Attachment below is Euro training diagram, used here at forum before, HK-China also uses it in their driver manual:- See Rule 259 point 4, then "Lane Discipline" at Rule 264, Rule 265 will be of interest. http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/TravelAn...code/DG_069862 And so it goes.
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Whilst I commend Skaife (what am I saying) on the general intent of the program/report, its like comparing apples with oranges - Germany to Australia. A small land area with more population = much better roads.
Skaife drives down a section of the newest hwy in Oz and says he can't understand why its only 100kph posted. I'll tell you why - its only two lanes each direction and its carrying many trucks in/out of industrial areas. A little different to a 4 lane autobahn where the trucks are over there in lane 1 and cars doing 160kph in lane 4 On a funny note, they showed Skaife standing on the side of the road watching the traffic. I half expected Russell Ingall to appear!
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People tend to make up their own rules when the law is not around and that's fine provided they are aware of hidden dangers. A few years back on a quick night run back to the Central Coast, I nearly ran into a heard of cattle on the road a about 10 pm at night... I believe Skaife was not talking about speed limits back of whoop whoop, he was talking about different speeds for heavily trafficked areas. Look out for the speed camera coming into Duringa, all the locals know about it but the city folk get hammered... Last edited by jpd80; 14-06-2010 at 04:56 PM. |
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Anyway BOT,Skaife is right but we do need to tighten up the learning/ testing system. Then we can start on the roads and cars.
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![]() ........... I agree with the increase, but people's attitude on driving have to change. Also making sure the vehicle is up scratch is very important. It is funny that as cars are getting much safer (well most), handle better and can handle higher speeds that we are driving slower now! Also if this were done in the country (where it would be very beneficial), the roads would need to be at least two lanes on each side and some sort of barrier in the middle.
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I also think that in many parts of Australia having increase limits only on divided roads is not appropriate. Many single-lane roads for all intents and purposes are divided because there is very little oncoming traffic. Many roads im on 99% of the time there is no car next to me going the other way. |
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