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Old 31-07-2007, 07:40 AM   #61
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In Germany they refer to it as 'the idiot test'.

When AUS kicked off its plan for an eventual National Driver Training Scheme back in December 2004, initially involving VIC and NSW pupils, and which you now see being adopted by the states - as the increasingly harmonised, graduated licensing system, a key part of this system and process - is to weed out (identifiy) those in need of particular remedial attention.

The system itself is 'defensive-driving' in nature (eg; component - hazard perception), with intervention strategies targetted at the 'cowboy' element, which seeks to identify them and interact with such by use of accredited driving instructors, facilitators, discusionary phone calls etc.

Our new AUS system is an adoption of an EU driver training scheme.
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Old 31-07-2007, 02:37 PM   #62
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In Germany they refer to it as 'the idiot test'.

When AUS kicked off its plan for an eventual National Driver Training Scheme back in December 2004, initially involving VIC and NSW pupils, and which you now see being adopted by the states - as the increasingly harmonised, graduated licensing system, a key part of this system and process - is to weed out (identifiy) those in need of particular remedial attention.

The system itself is 'defensive-driving' in nature (eg; component - hazard perception), with intervention strategies targetted at the 'cowboy' element, which seeks to identify them and interact with such by use of accredited driving instructors, facilitators, discusionary phone calls etc.

Our new AUS system is an adoption of an EU driver training scheme.
Interesting. Would you mind linking us to some further reading? I would like to know more about this .
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Old 31-07-2007, 04:57 PM   #63
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On the other hand, "finish the mission regardless of any problems, keep going, don't stop, ignore fatigue, ignore mechanical problems, ignore or kill anyone trying to stop you" is probably not a good mindset in a car during peak hour in the city
Sounds like me going down the shops to get some milk and a loaf of bread. But thats normal right?
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A narrow idea, Psyc Tests for drivers, just imagine some old cocky out west with an FJ Ute sitting one and passing it...
Not that old cockies out west are dumb *hits, it would be funny to watch
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In Germany they refer to it as 'the idiot test'.

When AUS kicked off its plan for an eventual National Driver Training Scheme back in December 2004, initially involving VIC and NSW pupils, and which you now see being adopted by the states - as the increasingly harmonised, graduated licensing system, a key part of this system and process - is to weed out (identifiy) those in need of particular remedial attention.

The system itself is 'defensive-driving' in nature (eg; component - hazard perception), with intervention strategies targetted at the 'cowboy' element, which seeks to identify them and interact with such by use of accredited driving instructors, facilitators, discusionary phone calls etc.

Our new AUS system is an adoption of an EU driver training scheme.
I wonder if a training video can be part of this. The idea came to mind when watching a Youtube video from Czech Republic that I recently posted on this forum. This clearly shows European driving practices that Australia lacks - like keeping a proper watch, moving over (keeping left in Australia) when somebody wants to pass etc. 15 minutes in front of such a video could focus attention on best practice. People respond to visual media in a way they never would to printed material.

I don't fully agree with the suggestion that this thread is discussing but there is a problem here that is deep rooted. The two factors I see are aggression and vagueness. I don't know how you deal with vagueness if its deep rooted in someone's personality other then by not giving them a licence - like not letting sombody fly a plane if they're prone to daydream in flight!

Aggression would be easier to deal with I think. Attitudes like being offended if somebody wants to pass you, that sort of thing. Darn it, you can't even use a headlight flash in this country because you don't know whether you are dealing with someone who just takes it for what it is or someone who regards it as a profound insult to their masculinity. A long road to hoe here methinks. :
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Old 03-08-2007, 09:29 AM   #66
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Fines won't stop these people. Maybe a little bit of the Rattan accross the bum might drive the message into their heads?
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Interesting. Would you mind linking us to some further reading? I would like to know more about this .
http://www.fcai.com.au/media2003.php#may262003
http://www.ministers.dotars.gov.au/j...LPC_5_2005.htm

This ATSB link is the key site to read up on the NDTS:-
http://www.atsb.gov.au/road/novice_d...june_2005.aspx

What you observe as 'increasingly harmonised graduated licensing systems' around the jurisdictions, and how by way of media that is taught, is all part of the flow-on, 'creation' of this system:-)

It's emphasis, as said, is on the defensive driving component.


WA's audio file (MP3) of my Pdf Sig:-
http://www.dpi.wa.gov.au/mediaFiles/...safe_part9.mp3

Basically, the departments are using a greater array of media to get tuition across, Podcasts for example.

Anyhow, the driver training system is developing, it must be equally administrable across the country.


NewtoFord - The video conceptual idea will probably be done, I'd like to push it somewhat, well see. It would need to show practical scenes, advice and outcome
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