Police will confiscate cars for speeding over 45 over!

[charles_wif_xf]

Originally Posted by heljas

if the pigs set a good example good one

i hope you need the police to come to your house one day and they find out that you said that

what do you think they would say

im guessing sorry mate/suvilian we cant help you

dont you think you should have put IF THE POLICE SET A GOOD EXAMPLE you might get a few better responces on your post

im not a police officer but i hate it when people bag them out

also you dont why the police officer was doing that speed

not to happy with this

jason

I'll more than agree with you that there are some damn fine cops in this country of ours. It's just that the rotten apples are making the other ones smell and soon, some of the good ones rot as well. If society and government were fair and just (what a laugh!!!), the police would stop hiring trigger happy yes men. That has to be the nastiest combo you could ever have.

[Interceptor]

Originally Posted by GCFordChic

I just had to say that until reading through the post by Interceptor i had this terrible awfully stereotypical picture in my head of NT roads. I thought that they were all dirt roads and everyone drove beat up old utes. :

of course there are gravel roads up in the territory, most of which are your typical bush tracks but on the highways where the speed limit is set only by sensible bounds (read: you, your cars and the roads limitations), the road surface is excellent

the only places where there are speed limits are where you'd need them... urban areas

just remember, for many years, the only speed limited roads in victoria were in urban areas

[ED Classic]

Theres some hipocrits on here. I honestly beleive everyone who has owned a hot car has done it once and if you can tell me otherwise then you are lying to me and youself.

The laws need to be respected on both sides. I dont want some one doing 50kmh over killing me just like I dont want someone doing 50kmh killing me because he/she is been chased by Police who have lost their sense of calm.

I dont speed but can say if my car were impounded and sold then the new owner wouldnt have it long because as soon as I saw it I would. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .

[LTDHO]

Is 45 over 100 dangerous on a freeway with thin traffic?

95 in a 50? Yes without a doubt.
60 in a 50? No way!

Whilst we a fed the "Speed Kills" BS and the general public get suckered in to believe it, then these type of laws will be implemented.

I saw the ad of the XP do the small burnout and then go onto a truck, In every city, in every street on every night [end sarcasm]

[OzJavelin]

Hmm .. car doing 45km/h over the speed limit .. eg. 95km/h in 50km/h zone.

Most drivers approach an intersection, stop (kind of), look at oncoming traffic for maybe a second or so to gauge speed - ie. the difference of position oncoming cars are at the start and end of that sampling gives a rough estimate of speed and distance. Additionally we "trust" that on a specific piece of road vehicles should be travelling at a specific posted, speedlimit and based upon this and our sampling we make a calculation of the gap between ourselves and the oncoming car, and the distance we require to accelerate to keep infront of that car. This is all done in fractions of a second. It's a rough guide but usually accurate enough for practical purposes - i.e. most people don't crash into other cars at every intersection. Unfortunately this all comes undone when someone is travelling 45km/h above the speed limit. The small sampling and assumption of a consistent speed means drivers WILL pull out infront of a speeding car. So while you might think you're a good, safe driver travelling at 95km/h you'll probably t-bone someone else who pulls out infront of you. In general "recreational" speeding like this is an exercise in stupidity and shows a person who is entirely self-centred and has no regard for anyone other than themselves.

[Laminge]

Originally Posted by xd5.8l

I'm fed up don't they have more important issues!!!!!!!!!!!! :jab:
I had a cop car with acouple of sl#ts fly passed me today 100 in a 70 zone. Not to mention the time I had a pursuit car fly pass at double the speed on the western ring rd, Senior seargent!!!!!!! There might be good cops out there but the ones I come across just abuse their position.
If the pigs set a good example and followed their own legislations that are in place things would be different, until that happens I can't see a solution to this problem.

I really wish I read this properly yesterday when I took a line out of it, having a good read this morning I have realised what a moron you are.

You are a keyboard hero, and to be honest I am sick of editing your stupid posts on this forum.

Lift your game sunshine because it wont be tolerated anymore.

If you think I sound peeved off, the unedited version of this post would have left no doubt as obviously PMs and 2 banning has had no sway on the continuance of this drivel!

[Abacus]

Originally Posted by 4.9 EF Futura

Agree with brute6 and davway - 45km over is going VERY quick!

EDIT: I think the posession of your car should be the last of your concerns anyways considering all of the criminal charges currently imposed on people doing that kind of speed over the limit. I believe its possible jail time here in SA.

You trying to tell us you've never done 145km/h on the open road?

[Professor Farnsworth]

simple facts:

1) Speeding endangers your own life
2) Speeding endangers others' lives
3) Nothing gives you the RIGHT to speed when suckers like me constantly begrudgingly do the limit (and people get up my ar$e all the time just EXPECTING me to speed because of the way my car looks).
4) Time and place, but even saying that it's still taking your life in your hands
5) Uses FAR more fuel, and a lot of you whinge about fuel prices, then do speeds that exaserbate the problem.
6) All it takes is for a rabbit to run out infront of you at 140, you'll most likely flinch not knowing what it is initially...... end of story.

A lot of you seem to be suffering from the immortality delusion (usually 18-21, but can last a lifetime for some) which is depressing because it's just going to end in tears.

Anyone who owns a late model or powerful car knows it's very difficult to keep the needle on 60, let alone 50 and 40, but if i have to do it, why the hell don't you people ? This is only directed at those who seem to think it's their right to speed on our roads. Every once in a while, hey whatever, but If you speed habitually, you're selfish, end of story. And if you think going 45 over the limit is fine, i don't even have a word to describe you.

[4.9 EF Futura]

Originally Posted by Abacus

You trying to tell us you've never done 145km/h on the open road?

No that's not what i was trying to tell you... i merely said that 45km/hr over the limit is going pretty quick.

Regardless of the speeds i may or may not have travelled on public roads, i think it'd be strongly against forum policy for me to make statements suggesting that I had.

If you're looking for some sort of admission then PM me lol. Moving on...

It suprises me to see how many people are quite blas'e about driving at 150km/hr. Think about the consequences of those kinds of speeds and think about how little experience we (we - being general road users) have in driving a car at those speeds.

"Oh but the autobahn, oh but what if the road is quiet, oh but look how quick people go on motorbikes"

Fact: 150km/hr is very quick.

Yes, i know $20,000 bikes can do nearly double that. But whatever relativity you want to put on it, whatever comparison you want to make... 150km/hr is moving VERY fast. Absolutely. No buts about it.

Im not saying "dont do it"... it's not my place to tell someone how or how not to drive. I guess what i'm saying is dont take those kinds of speeds lightly - that's bloody fast. And dont act suprised when the authorities want to drag you across the coals for doing such speeds.

[LTDHO]

Originally Posted by fantz

simple facts:

1) Speeding endangers your own life
2) Speeding endangers others' lives
3) Nothing gives you the RIGHT to speed when suckers like me constantly begrudgingly do the limit (and people get up my ar$e all the time just EXPECTING me to speed because of the way my car looks).
4) Time and place, but even saying that it's still taking your life in your hands
5) Uses FAR more fuel, and a lot of you whinge about fuel prices, then do speeds that exaserbate the problem.
6) All it takes is for a rabbit to run out infront of you at 140, you'll most likely flinch not knowing what it is initially...... end of story.

A lot of you seem to be suffering from the immortality delusion (usually 18-21, but can last a lifetime for some) which is depressing because it's just going to end in tears.

Anyone who owns a late model or powerful car knows it's very difficult to keep the needle on 60, let alone 50 and 40, but if i have to do it, why the hell don't you people ? This is only directed at those who seem to think it's their right to speed on our roads. Every once in a while, hey whatever, but If you speed habitually, you're a selfish idiot, end of story. And if you think going 45 over the limit is fine, i don't even have a word to describe you.

Unfortunately your facts are not true.

1) Not true, if is was that speed would be governed world wide to safer speeds.
2) Not true, I am alive @ 100 as I would be @ 150
3) RIGHT has nothing to do with it, as everyone deserves this right.
4) Still, untrue as the life of the driver and others are still safe,
5) This is a cost of getting to your destination sooner. Justified.
6) Hence why driver training needs to be increased. Story will never end.

Fact: There is more to the road toll than vehicle speed.

Vehicles are very hard to keep at 40, 50 and 60. Can this be fixed? Yes, speedo's can be 270 degrees and be on a scale of 0-120 and they can be 100% accurate. If speeding caused death, the government would introduce this instead of the cub side money makers.

There is no need to call someone a ' selfish idiot' just because they do something that you don't.

BTW - This is off topic!

[Redrum]

In relation to these confiscation powers Police wont use them until authorised. They will be authorised when they have received traning package.

[Professor Farnsworth]

Originally Posted by LTDHO

Unfortunately your facts are not true.

1) Not true, if is was that speed would be governed world wide to safer speeds.
2) Not true, I am alive @ 100 as I would be @ 150
3) RIGHT has nothing to do with it, as everyone deserves this right.
4) Still, untrue as the life of the driver and others are still safe,
5) This is a cost of getting to your destination sooner. Justified.
6) Hence why driver training needs to be increased. Story will never end.

Fact: There is more to the road toll than vehicle speed.

Vehicles are very hard to keep at 40, 50 and 60. Can this be fixed? Yes, speedo's can be 270 degrees and be on a scale of 0-120 and they can be 100% accurate. If speeding caused death, the government would introduce this instead of the cub side money makers.

There is no need to call someone a ' selfish idiot' just because they do something that you don't.

BTW - This is off topic!

why not, the government calls everyone 'bloody idiot's' for drinking. besides i changed it anyway.

Lovely rebuttal, however you can stick to your response if you like, but sorry my points stand. You're saying it from your position which is fine, but there are a large amount of unskilled drivers on the road who aren't able to handle the mentioned conditions as well as you may. Furthermore it is not your 'right' to drive on the roads, let alone your 'right' to speed. That is ludicrous. Driving is a privellige, and one given with many conditions attached. Those who think they have the right to speed, especially through peak traffic, are selfish, and deserve the consequences.

[kyro_02]

end of the day, go on any club cruise in any organisation you there will be those few who will break the law knowingly or not...

if you drive regulary, you're bound to break the law... not headchecking.. indicating... not stopping at stop sign long enough .. list goes on...

i don't care if people break the law, as long as it doesn't affect me in anyway.... it isn't my problem , it's theirs.... i'm not going to hate them ... if you're not a knucklehead, you'll learn from your mistakes...

[SPK-250]

Hey i read half the first page and seen it was turning into a big "you said, he said" thread so i bailed out. It's all i ever read on any forum is people verbalising<(new word) other people about their thoughts/views/opinions. It's a free world people, if some dude wants to speed at even 10kmh over the limit, then bloody well let them.

i don't care if people break the law, as long as it doesn't affect me in anyway.... it isn't my problem , it's theirs.... i'm not going to hate them ... if you're not a knucklehead, you'll learn from your mistakes...

Agreed!

[Panda]

Originally Posted by LTDHO

Fact: There is more to the road toll than vehicle speed

I agree 100%. Speed is a contributing factor, it is not the whole story.

In the Northern Territory I came to the realisation that SPEED DOES NOT KILL. We got to the unrestricted section and we could let loose, so we did. It was all fun and felt good because it was so 'naughty', but after about 1/2 hour at 160km/h, it just felt normal. If anything, the car handled better at 160km/h than it did at 100km/h (actually there were a lot of people that commented on this speed being the optimum).

The kids were watching a DVD in the back, and at one stage I asked them what speed we were doing. They looked around, shrugged and said "Dunno, 100?"

There is a common misconception that the roads in the Northern Territory are far superior to other roads, this is just not the case. In general, they are the same as regional 2-lane highways, just much straighter.

I do not support speeding in Metropolitan areas / CBD / suburbs, but 100km/h in a well maintained, well manufactured car is crazy.

Panda

[MAFIA]

Originally Posted by fantz

45 over = you shouldn't be driving on public roads - therefore - bring on the law.

Screw the law. It's only gonna get worse. The goverment and police have no idea the there screwing Australia up like John Howard has done in the last 10 years!!!

Cops here in the West can't drive for ***** and there driving skill are much dumber then the cops you see on the American movies! :

[henry 351]

Originally Posted by davway

i cant think of one genuine reason why anyone needs to go 45kmh over the limit.

Peeled my sister out of a car wreck between two country towns in the middle of NSW. Ambo's advised us that they were at least 45 min away (not blaming them).

Yes I sped getting her to hospital, but it was the difference between living and dying according to the quack. I was pulled over for speeding by the plod (157kph, and you were on the picks son) who escorted us to hospital at a similar speed.

My sister lived and the cop still booked me for speeding.

Yes it would be just lovely for them to take my car too, heaven forbid if there's a next time that speed could save a life...

[MITCHAY]

Originally Posted by henry 351

My sister lived and the cop still booked me for speeding.

What a tight ****!!! As if you were ever going to choose between your sister and a speeding fine in the first place.

[henry 351]

Originally Posted by MITCHAY

What a tight ****!!! As if you were ever going to choose between your sister and a speeding fine in the first place.

I was simply inferring that I had been fined for doing the wrong thing (speeding). I don't have an issue with that. However, do you think it would have been fair for the law to have confiscated my car under these circumstances??? If that's being a tight**** so be it.

[[Tonko]]

Originally Posted by PH47

Heh three cheers for having a cruiser.. low and slow is the way to go ;)

second that!

[MITCHAY]

Originally Posted by henry 351

I was simply inferring that I had been fined for doing the wrong thing (speeding). I don't have an issue with that. However, do you think it would have been fair for the law to have confiscated my car under these circumstances??? If that's being a tight**** so be it.

I was saying it was tight **** for even fining you. It was obviously an emergency, not a position you would have desired.

[Polyal]

Guys there are exceptions to every rule, but bloody hell no one here is saying that speeding is/isn't dangerous. There is a time and a place, and on public roads its not acceptable! PERIOD!!

How you can justify it is beyond me ,other than for life threatening reasons. (even then you are potentially making it worse; but we would all do it for sure).

[oneredED]

1) Speeding endangers your own life
2) Speeding endangers others' lives
3) Nothing gives you the RIGHT to speed when suckers like me constantly begrudgingly do the limit (and people get up my ar$e all the time just EXPECTING me to speed because of the way my car looks).
4) Time and place, but even saying that it's still taking your life in your hands
5) Uses FAR more fuel, and a lot of you whinge about fuel prices, then do speeds that exaserbate the problem.
6) All it takes is for a rabbit to run out infront of you at 140, you'll most likely flinch not knowing what it is initially...... end of story.

Ok, I am not going to go blah blah blah and claim I did this a friend does that, and I don't necessarily agree with either side of this arguement, but you've made some statements I don't agree with.

1) Not necessarily, that is a VERY vast generalisation.
2) Always? In short, no it doesn't ALWAYS.
6) Rabbit at 140? BWAHAHAHAHA... No wait you were serious? A rabbit at anything over 150 will not make it out onto the road by the time you make it to the point the rabbit was going to run out. And if you swerve for a rabbit you should not be doing that speed the first place :togo:

[oneredED]

I agree 100%. Speed is a contributing factor, it is not the whole story.

In the Northern Territory I came to the realisation that SPEED DOES NOT KILL. We got to the unrestricted section and we could let loose, so we did. It was all fun and felt good because it was so 'naughty', but after about 1/2 hour at 160km/h, it just felt normal. If anything, the car handled better at 160km/h than it did at 100km/h (actually there were a lot of people that commented on this speed being the optimum).

The kids were watching a DVD in the back, and at one stage I asked them what speed we were doing. They looked around, shrugged and said "Dunno, 100?"

There is a common misconception that the roads in the Northern Territory are far superior to other roads, this is just not the case. In general, they are the same as regional 2-lane highways, just much straighter.

I do not support speeding in Metropolitan areas / CBD / suburbs, but 100km/h in a well maintained, well manufactured car is crazy.

Panda

I agree also

In regards to the 160kmh thing, humans adapt very quickly. If you do slow down to 100 after travelling at say 160 for a while (say a couple of minutes) your reflexes are insane. You feel as if you are walking, and can notice 4x as much detail in everything around you as you drive...

[Professor Farnsworth]

Originally Posted by oneredED

6) Rabbit at 140? BWAHAHAHAHA... No wait you were serious? A rabbit at anything over 150 will not make it out onto the road by the time you make it to the point the rabbit was going to run out.

what on EARTH did you just say ?!?

Originally Posted by oneredED

And if you swerve for a rabbit you should not be doing that speed the first place :togo:

that is my whole point, you've illustrated it perfectly. there are PLENTY of people who shouldn't be doing that speed, and if the law said they COULD, the good majority of them WOULD do it, you can imagine the results. As with people now who can't even handle 100, but do it because it's allowed, and they end up causing accidents. Anyway this is another unwinable argument so i'm out.

[LUXO_8]

who swerves for rabbits anyway..:togo:

[XA-Coupe]

Damn we have some morons on these forums. I am surprised that they have enough brain power to drool let alone write on a forum.
I hope the 'pigs' nail them good and proper and take their POS cars off the road. Perhaps a bit of walking might give them time to generate enough neurons to realise they are indeed... morons.

[XA-Coupe]

Originally Posted by MADNC_8

who swerves for rabbits anyway..:togo:

no one that wants to live.

[flappist]

I always have a laugh at those on here who are so zealous on speeding.........

NO NO NO NO NEVER NEVER NEVER even if you are the only car on the road, can see for 10 km ahead and are 200km from the nearest town.

THERE IS TOO MUCH HYPOCRACY IN THIS THREAD............

A simple question for all the zealots......

If exceeding the 100km/h speed limit on a highway in the bush is DANGEROUS and LIFE THREATENING would you exceed 100km/h in NT on the open zone?

If you answer yes then you are a hypocrit and if you answer no then you are on the wrong site.

Here is the link for you www.walk.com.au

[EDManual]

Originally Posted by flappist

I always have a laugh at those on here who are so zealous on speeding.........

NO NO NO NO NEVER NEVER NEVER even if you are the only car on the road, can see for 10 km ahead and are 200km from the nearest town.

THERE IS TOO MUCH HYPOCRACY IN THIS THREAD............

A simple question for all the zealots......

If exceeding the 100km/h speed limit on a highway in the bush is DANGEROUS and LIFE THREATENING would you exceed 100km/h in NT on the open zone?

If you answer yes then you are a hypocrit and if you answer no then you are on the wrong site.

Here is the link for you www.walk.com.au

Exactly..... we are told we are bad, but its not necessarily true. Why more and more people are believing the propaganda the pollys, cops etc tell us is beyond me.

Soon we will only be able to breathe at a certain speed. Why, because there is a new machine that can detect people who breathe too fast (the govt tell us we are wasting air), and therefore can issue fines and make the Govt money. Eventually the govt will make us use less and less air, and we will believe the reasons (theres not much left, dont be selfish with it..) for it and agree that we should be fined for using too much.
Some people will see someone running past puffing hard, they will yell at them "you idiot, you are going to kill us all with your fast breathing!!)
These people are like many of the people here. Someone is wrong, someone is right.

That sounds strangly familiar with speed.

Speed doesnt kill, never has. Its not driving correctly. That is all.