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Truckies by law (in Hr and above i think) need to display 3 triangles when broken down. We had to do this as part of our licence and then change a tyre.
Trouble is I think those triangles are simply too small to be notice by the average motorist in daylight. And trucks driving past will blow them over if you dont have sandbags! In the USA in the 70s they used to use crossed fluro flags on road works signs.... maybe a combo of both?
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A recent fatal involving a stopped heavy vehicle on a downward left sweeper/curve on the Hume that was impacted by other heavy vehicle/s in NSW highlights 'placement' instruction given at ARR needs to be improved/modernised - to stipulate placement greater than 150 metres, out to 200 metres - (steps). Insufficient warning was part of this problem. I had suggested low quality specification triangles used, though legal, was another. The typical Aussie 'set of three' compliant to AS3790 are US DOT compliant, DOT being the source for our AS3790 (which btw accepts UNECE 27R triangles as an alternative), but that standard was created Stateside back in the days of the double nickle (55Mph/88km/h maximum national speed-limit), so its perfomance minimums fall short of the Euro/UN "UNECE 27R" type triangles;- insofar reflex reflector performance and sizing, and with its inner triangle sizing = 'narrow-insufficient'. Stability against wind buffetting is also less with the US DOT/AS2790 type, BUT the US/AS3790 type triangles are two-faced, whereas the UNECE 27R type are single faced. I don't see the need for two sided triangles for car/4WD/van categories myself, but for fallen loads on two-laned roads re the heavy vehicles - they would be of benefit, que?! That said, high-speed Europe seems to survive with a single faced triangle requirement under UNECE 27R. Part of the answer re Specification, will be for the Yanks to improve the DOT triangle spec to UNECE 27R level. Harmonisation should see that occure. Should make a point, I am seeking "legally required minimum specification", so that XX car market buyers will have this 'standard' triangle (and 2 x safety vests), but as owner - you are then free, within reason, to improve on that standard by purchasing additional triangle/s to use, - that might bear for example strong, RED LED's with the specifications mandatory red reflector and inner fluroescent triangle also present (should batteries fail or die), and be stable by way of UNECE's "spidery legs" triangles. I know NSW was working on ARR amendments re placement of warning triangles, I'll see where we are at. RTA responded re my vests in cars advocacy; - they want me to first open discussion with Workcover. Time, need time.
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ORDER FORD AUSTRALIA PART NO: AM6U7J19G329AA. This is a European-UN/AS3790B Spec safety-warning triangle used to give advanced warning to approaching traffic of a vehicle breakdown, or crash scene (to prevent secondary). Stow in the boot area. See your Ford dealer for this $35.95 safety item & when you buy a new Ford, please insist on it! See Page 83, part 4.4.1 http://www.transport.wa.gov.au/media...eSafePart4.pdf Last edited by Keepleft; 14-06-2011 at 02:09 PM. |
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2 months ago I was driven by a family friend from the Czech Republic to Austria. Prior to departure he went to the garage and threw in 5 green fluro vests because in Austria all drivers need them in the car. BMW / Merc / Audi etc etc have them here because it probably costs more money to remove them then to just leave them there. I think the triangles and vests are a great idea... for a small cost if it even saves 1 life it is worth it. If that life happens to be yours or a friends even better. |
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