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Peter Car
Join Date: Dec 2004
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[QUOTE=Iphido]As far as I know there is no replacement for the LWB cars designed for Orion. So I would doubt they will appear in that generation.
So most likely will not reappear until 2018? QUOTE] It doesn't take that much effort to make a LWB version of a Falcon. If Ford could get an export market for it it would take less than 2-3 years to get it to market. All thats really required is to stretch the wheelbase, add longer rear doors and restyle the roof. Changing the look front and rear can be done fairly easily. The door is still open, all it needs is a customer and some time. |
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Isn't the FPV Force 6 & 8 going to be based on the Fairlane? It would seem odd to develop a whole new FPV model based on a car that is not going to be around for much longer?
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Peter Car
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Oh ok, they sound like a nice package then. More Euro/FTE l guess, more subtle?
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Guy that posts stuff
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Sydney
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Tooling for the roof, doors, etc would take time to make. New wiring loom, new mechanicals (drive shaft etc). Say its three years from today. That means it would have 2 less years to recover its costs than the swb car. Its also going to cost more to develop as it was not done in synergy with the SWB car. It also more expensive per unit now the wagon is going to die and no longer offer its doors for LWB models. And now it has to compete with a Statesman being sold in large volumes overseas and the 300c and 300c LWB. Given the price to make LWB models Ford could make a decision. It could make a LWB model or a Coupe instead. Unless they are going to make the LWB properly, they would be better off doing something else and doing that right. Personally I think the Fairlane Ghia and Fairmont Ghia should be very close. Like a 7 series and a 7L series. Exactly the same but with longer doors, roof, wheelbase. The LTD can then be the complete pimp mobile with chrome everything and super gadgets. |
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The Phantom Menace
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Victoria
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There are a lot of good ideas being thrown around here but the reality is would any of us buy one?
I may be wrong but I would assume most of us would rather an SWB FPV to a Fairlane or LTD. 10 years ago people bought a fairlane when they got old and/or had lots of money. There were few options for luxury cars and dare I say all the gizmos that make todays luxury cars that good were not in even the premium euro models. These days there are lots of cars you can buy if you get old and/or have lots of money. SUVs and European cars are much more prevalent now and the purchase of a Fairlane is simply not the most fun way to spend your kids inheritance. (Mum and Dad have a 4x4 and Caravan and are doing the Grey haired wanderers thing.) The demographics have changed in Australia and a long wheelbase car is simply not that important to us. One other thing that you may disagree with and appologies if you do but I would say that the Ford / Holden rivalry is born out of motor sport. I would assume that most people who buy Fairlanes are looking for luxury and because of that people are forgetting about the Ford / Holden thing and looking at other cars as well. Bottom line is, I don't really care if ford stop making a car that I am never going to buy anyway. |
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Guy that posts stuff
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Sydney
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Is it any suprise that when Fairlane sold heaps, imported cars had a 50% tax on them and BMW didn't even offically import them (only grey imports from dealers).
Things have changed. BMW, Merc, Audi and lexus can offer you a lot for your money. Orion is going to be larger than the BF Falcon. With better/bigger doors and wider openings and more efficent space useage. Do you really need a aircraft carrier sized sedan when your basic sedan is just over 5 metres long? |
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Starter Motor
Join Date: Jul 2008
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yeah I hear about Fairlane and LTD finished, that why BA to BF not very good design that all from Falcon look bored. why not make 2 team... one team for Falcon Design and one team Fairlane and LTD design.... AU Fairlane and LTD much better than BA and BF!! I keep drawing and make up new car in froward... look the picture not good draw!! make look strong Front and back... I drawing more soon and show you.... THAT WHY MY FAV FORD LTD!!
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Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Adelaide
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Wait? What?
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Tassie
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uhh? I don't know what to say..... I'll say nothing....
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Starter Motor
Join Date: Jul 2008
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other drawing here...
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Ford/Lincoln do need a large RWD sedan, but just like Chrysler have gotten it right with the 300C/Charger - you can choose sporty or luxury with it, Ford need to do the same. Now the Lincoln has gone more sporty with it's image, I am sure they can do something right. Maybe something above the MKS. Though that might be it, because I believe they are not planning to do more V8 sedans. |
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Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Melbourne
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I like your designs, Ape021. Your second drawings are very nice!
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i see a bit of statesman /caprice in that.. |
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