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Old 17-10-2016, 05:04 PM   #31
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Anything you like gets done in a beer economy. Pay by beer.
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Old 17-10-2016, 05:09 PM   #32
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Old 17-10-2016, 05:10 PM   #33
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A VF Valiant I once owned had left thread nuts on the passenger side. After explaining this to the bloke at the counter and him writing it on the job sheet, I got back in time to find they'd already broken two of the studs off and desperately trying to break the third. The bloke doing the job couldn't comprehend the studs loosened in the opposite direction. They then tried telling me they were already broken....
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Old 17-10-2016, 05:22 PM   #34
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A VF Valiant I once owned had left thread nuts on the passenger side. After explaining this to the bloke at the counter and him writing it on the job sheet, I got back in time to find they'd already broken two of the studs off and desperately trying to break the third. The bloke doing the job couldn't comprehend the studs loosened in the opposite direction. They then tried telling me they were already broken....
Who reads job cards anyways... well I do. We had a guy at work absolutely stuff a quote for 6 fluoros (sell price $9 each) by not reading the job card of lamps only, ballasts or other repairs extra, and changed $300 of electronic ballasts for free.I swear common sense is a rare thing these days...
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Old 17-10-2016, 10:03 PM   #35
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Like my missus says, common sense is uncommon. My pet hate is customer service or lack of it. When you hand your hard earned over to somebody for a product or service, you like to think your choice means something. Too often these days it doesn't count for sh-t.
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Old 18-10-2016, 12:50 AM   #36
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Ended up finding a guy in his late 50's down the road who did his apprenticeship working on XB's so he will be getting my business shortly.
Back when I was an apprentice, I was helping out a mechanic with a service on a car, and another mechanic came over, and used some chalk and fiddled with the toe adjustment on the car just using chalk and eye sight.

He used to own and run a tyre shop and had been in the game for over 30 years, I asked him how he did it and what he did, he just told me it was too hard to explain.

We went for a spin on the test run, he got it steering straight just with the chalk and eye.

When we put it on the wheel alignment heads, it was nearly spot on.

It still amazes me to this day.
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Old 18-10-2016, 01:04 AM   #37
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some of those zap guns have some serious torque , i have been caught myself out in the sticks with a flat and super tight wheel nuts , one 4 way wheel brace dead and torn shoulder , no joy at all .
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Back when I was an apprentice, I was helping out a mechanic with a service on a car, and another mechanic came over, and used some chalk and fiddled with the toe adjustment on the car just using chalk and eye sight.

He used to own and run a tyre shop and had been in the game for over 30 years, I asked him how he did it and what he did, he just told me it was too hard to explain.

We went for a spin on the test run, he got it steering straight just with the chalk and eye.

When we put it on the wheel alignment heads, it was nearly spot on.

It still amazes me to this day.
I've been doing my alignments similar to that for over 20 years.
It's not that hard, caster is a bit trickier, but doable.
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Old 18-10-2016, 10:47 AM   #39
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In both cases, I had to literally jump my full weight on the wheel brace to crack the nuts that were overdone by tyre shops.

That's why I carry my own cordless rattle gun in a tub in my boot, not only great at taking your own tyres off super fast on the side of the road but I have also stopped and helped a few others. I can usually change their tyre faster than they can get 1 wheel nut undone with the crappy supplied factory wheel brace. I spin the nuts up to just an even nip all round then I use a cross brace to finish off.



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Old 18-10-2016, 07:20 PM   #40
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That's why I carry my own cordless rattle gun in a tub in my boot, not only great at taking your own tyres off super fast on the side of the road but I have also stopped and helped a few others. I can usually change their tyre faster than they can get 1 wheel nut undone with the crappy supplied factory wheel brace. I spin the nuts up to just an even nip all round then I use a cross brace to finish off.



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Your method sounds ideal. Makes you wonder why they don't do it properly at the shop considering they supposedly 'specialise' in it....I know time is an issue and they use rattle guns to speed up the work, but when was the last time you got out of a tyre shop in under 45 mins. I seriously wonder what takes so long sometimes, especially when their quiet.
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Old 18-10-2016, 09:39 PM   #41
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I've already helped several people in the last few months with the jumper pack that I carry in the car. You mean I need to buy a cordless rattle gun too?

I don't normally carry a wheel brace or spare (LPi with the TMK) unless I'm going long distance.
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Old 18-10-2016, 10:25 PM   #42
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Back when we had an XC Fairmont GXL the Bob Jane in Bundaberg was putting new tyres on it. They gave the job of refitting the wheels to the apprentice. He promptly snapped off five or six wheel studs. Obviously he didn't just give up after the first one or readjust the rattle gun.
He was REALLY giving it everything it had.

They replaced them free of charge...of course...and the head tyre fitter recommended that we tell any future tyre shops to put a notation to only use a wheel spanner and not a rattle gun. At least not in the hands of a monkey...
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Old 19-10-2016, 09:35 AM   #43
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I've already helped several people in the last few months with the jumper pack that I carry in the car. You mean I need to buy a cordless rattle gun too?

I don't normally carry a wheel brace or spare (LPi with the TMK) unless I'm going long distance.


Yeah, I also carry a mini jump pack, bloody brilliant, it's an American one by Noco GB40. I just have a rectangular tub in my boot with the cross brace, rattle gun, two or three of the most common size impact sockets and the jump pack plus a few cleaning rags. Nothing worse than kneeling down on 70 degree bitumen or gravel to fit the jack underneath.
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