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BLUE OVAL INC.
Join Date: Feb 2006
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I flat out refuse to use a BP for anything other than a Subway bacon and egg roll.
I cant speak for the petrol quality, but from many comparisons over the years i have found their gas to be crap and always dearer . I now use Caltex for all my fuels and can honestly say i get atleast 50k more inner city driving from a tank of gas than i did when i used BP, sometimes upto 80k's. I first noticed this when my mother complained about the gas usage in her EL falcon and so we kept a close eye on the k's she could do on different brands. BP was the worst from a economy point of view, performance im not sure of as she is 67 and doesnt really drive hard so is irrelevant |
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GT
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: SYDNEY
Posts: 9,205
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bfHAH !!! LOL . bluehoon you made me laugh .
anyhow . somethi9ng to consider . 5 BP servos i use were all the same price yesterday $1.32/ litre for E10. no regular unleaded option. the one i used this morning at 5am on king georges road i was the only car filling up there. 100m up the road the woolworths one had a queue of 200metres becuase the price was $1.12 per litre. now THE NOVATED LEASE THING !!. it's true i dont pay GST. BUT I DO PAY $1.32 PER LITRE LESS GST. THE BULK PRICE I DO NOT GET. i think the company buys it at bulk , but the pump price is what i pay . well my receipts say so anyway . unless the pay back some later i dont know but i doubt it . now the fuel quality i agree . my GT only ever getsa filled with BP ULTIMATE- on a performance car there is nothing else . i dont even check the price when we fill this up . differant hey . but a work traveler xr6 . i'm a little ****ed at 12 buck a tank dearer now bfiipursuit . that MOTOR CHARGE CARD is the GO $4 a month could save me $50p month or $600pa over 3yrs . with choice of station . i could buy premium 95 for less than i pay for E10. THANKS FOR THE TIP CHEERS . LOL ANYONME ELSE PLEASE HUMOUR ME , AND THANKS FOR THE INPUT . |
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GT
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: SYDNEY
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Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: In a glass case of emotion
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Around my area, Shell seems to be the most expensive.
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Regular Schmuck
Join Date: Dec 2004
Posts: 5,640
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This morning when I left for work, the BP was 1.15 and one further down the road was 1.15, same price when I got home at ~4. The Mobil further down was 1.32 and the Shell was 1.36 in the morning.
The BP's in my area for whatever reason are consistently cheaper but perhaps they didn't realise today was a Friday. I would have expected them to be ~1.32 as well. |
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Regular Member
Join Date: Dec 2009
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![]() Was thinking along similar lines(dont know about the quality issue), the rest of us are subsidising your ride and you are still whinging. Next time? if it worries you, find out who the fuel card is with before signing up. |
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Ford Fanatic
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Brisbane
Posts: 1,480
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The individual servo (speaking of brand franchisees, that is Like a Caltex servo run by a franchisee) They pay the wholesale rate for the fuel...they pay this price whatever it may be at the time the fuel is delivered. They will get notice of when the wholesale price changes usually 12 hours in advance. (This has little or nothing to do with the pump price) The pump price is market driven and support driven. Now being a franchise or independent owner the fuel company CANNOT dictate they must sell the fuel at any given price. If a franchisee wanted to he could sell fuel for $100 a litre and no one not even the ACCC could do anything about it. That would be an individual business decision by the franchisee. Of course if the price of the product was that far out of the ball park no one would be silly enough to buy fuel from there which is why it does not happen to that extent. What the fuel companies do is give "pricing support" on local market conditions. What I would do before every shift I worked at a servo is to drive around the competing servos to get the prices in the area and those prices are reported to the fuel company. In turn they give "price support" to help their franchise and ultimately their brand a competitive product in the area. So the message you get back is along the lines of you have so much price support, we recommend you price at xxxx cents per litre. The fuel company can see via the cash register/computer system what prices you are selling at. If you don't take the offer of the price support or choose to ignore it, the fuel company withdraws support to you and may not offer future price support. Now back to what the servo pays for fuel under the wholesale price. As you are aware prices go up and down all the time. Servos that had purchased fuel at a higher price would have thousands of litres of fuel in the ground which they potentially lose money on by trying to stay competitive. Often a servo will sell fuel for less than they paid for it due to the price changes. So the pricing support is like a rebate off what is paid for the next delivery of fuel. e.g. lets say the delivery is $10,000 there may be rebates of $1000.00 due making the bill $9000.00 I hope all this made sense to you.
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Rob
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Woodcroft S.A.
Posts: 21,476
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i'm not one to whinge about fuel company's overcharging but there is one thing that confuses me.
before everything went pear shaped, the barrel price on oil was edging toward $150+ or more (can't quite remember). suddenly, it falls by over 30% (again, exact amount fails me), the dollar is still quite strong and yet prices at the pump, although they dropped down to under $1/L, have risen again much more rapidly than what the barrel price has. if the barrel price does make its way back to the previous levels, we will be paying much more at the pump than what it peaked at before - somewhere around $1.70L. why is this. this is even more evident with lpg. the price of propane/butane dropped substantially and lpg got back into the 30cpl range but again, has risen much quicker than the price of the base product. lpg is already pretty much back to where it was, and yet the price of propane/butane isn't anywhere near what it was. obviously supply/dmand and exchange rates (singapore?) have a lot to do with it? this is a genuine question for anyone in the know. not a 'we are getting ripped' whinge. |
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The Vengeful One
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Location: Tazzy
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I only use BP Ultimate for my XR8 so i just pay whatever it is, i just go to my local Caltex for my 4wd, all fuel comes from the same holding yards so its just dumb when theres so much difference in prices
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Join Date: Aug 2009
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But they all come from the same oil stock, they are also seperated in the same fashion. |
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GT
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: SYDNEY
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and because i CAN i AM . otherwise i'd be buying a 2nd hand car and one less new aussie car would be turned over. if you knew abuot a novated lease . you would KNOW that the employee saves i little , not A LOT . and all the others involved taking thier cut are making shitloads and all the risk is mine, including the govt , my employers, the fleet company , insurance companies and dealer service and parts . something i normally do my self is maintain a car , now others will be employed to do it , in order to do this i have to be in a position to afford to sacrafice a fair cut of may wage too dude . its not A GIFT . like i said i save a little , and many make big money off my savings. think of the bank for example . you can invest your moiney in a bank at 8% pa , because of things like this . GROW up dude . I'M acar enthusiast . many people with heaps of wealth are driving 15 year old cars to save money , your not subsidising a cent for me. |
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GT
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: SYDNEY
Posts: 9,205
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BP FUEL HAS NOW DROPPED back down to a cheap $1.22c litre IN MY AREA , shell across the road have dropped from $1.21 to $1.08.
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Peter Car
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: geelong
Posts: 23,145
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BP are always the first to raise prices, and the last to lower them down here. I never go there. The closest servo to them is always cheaper by at least 2-3 cents, and at the end of the cycle they are at least 15 cents cheaper than BP are for at least 24 hrs.
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Rob
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Woodcroft S.A.
Posts: 21,476
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how many other companies garauntee their fuel? BP do, and only them.
prices vary, deal with it. to come out and say one company is always dearer is short sighted. have a look around. have a read through the thread again. some BP's are the cheapest. how can that be if the thread claims they are dearest? |
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GT
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: SYDNEY
Posts: 9,205
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I CAN ONLY TALK ABOUT SYDNEY . sounds like some other states maybe they are cheaper . perhaps its a state agreement thing . who knows . but i stand by what i'm seeing with my own eyes . it doesnt mean i dont buy it though .
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FF.Com.Au Hardcore
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Lilydale, Melbourne
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I see the word rogue service station used in one reply here, is Caltex a rogue servo? I travel from Lilydale to Coburg and its down right crazy with the way the prices fluctuate on the way. You would think from Lilydale the price would be hirer but some days its lower and the further into the City you go the more you pay. Bell street alone ranges from 116.7 to 123 thats for desiel. 122 at lilydae down to 116.7 Is there not some control on these prices. I think we are getting ripped off. I thought desiel was cheaper or did not fluctuate or very little
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Where to next??
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Sydney
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Wed.. approx 115.9 Thur.....approx 131.9 Fri... same Sat... 114.9! Never see it drop back down to regular price that fast. It generally creeps down a few cents a day till Wed arvo / Thur morning only for the price to hike back up and then do it all again. |
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FF.Com.Au Hardcore
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Canberra
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I only fill up with BP Ultimate. As much as it is consistently expensive, at least the fuel quality is just as good. WRX + BP Ultimate = good times
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Ford Fanatic
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Brisbane
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http://www.shell.com.au/home/content...fuels_quality/
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Audi S3
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Sydney.
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nearly died at a $95 tank of fuel :( :( i was desperate but, got 68 litres into the tank lol
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yeah does seem strange, on my way to Caltex I went past the BP and it was 1.29 for 91 thinking another expensive tank, got to Caltex and it was 1.17.
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FF.Com.Au Hardcore
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Lilydale, Melbourne
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I think we are getting fleeced.
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Join Date: Jun 2008
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they are most expensive servo in Perth always
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67 Galaxie Hardtop
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Penrith, NSW
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In my old car that required premium, I usually found that BP was the best as mobile and caltex caused pinging in the engine whereas BP did not.
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FF.Com.Au Hardcore
Join Date: Jul 2006
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Top post !!! I find it funny how some people give you attitude when you whinge about a company vehicle. You usually get "hey, at least it's free". It's not free. It's not a gift. It is a part of my salary package which I work very bloody hard for thank you very much !!! I hear ya bruv !
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Ford Convert
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Epping
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In northern suburbs Melbourne all the the big servo's are within a cent of each other, with shell and caltex being that cent cheaper and BP and mobile the same at a cent more. This is for 98.
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FF.Com.Au Hardcore
Join Date: Dec 2008
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i pay about $1.30 for bp ultimate at the local bp, i refuse to fill up on thursday night/friday etc when it is $1.40+
the local bp is across the road from the 7/11 and out of the dozen servos in the area the 7/11 and bp are always cheapest. often on a monday or tuesday when 91 octane is selling for $1.15 or so at bp and 7/11, other places in werribee are selling it for 5-10c+ per litre these two are also the closest together in the highest population area of the suburb.
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GT
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: SYDNEY
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well i drove past a cheap bp servo today E10 @ $1.17 on the way to the bottleo , i paid extra for a carton of premium p i s s. next door to the sevo was a mobil . E10 @ $1.12 PREMIUM @ $1.27 WTF.
BP STIL;L AS DEAR AS F. ATLEAST THE BEER TASTED BETTER THAN STANDARD. |
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