Oz Wide Tuners 10.99s or Faster BA-FG List

[Giant]

Would love to know which cars are trailer cars and the weight of each car.

Full street trim just doesn't cut it.

Are you trying to find out the best tuner or the best car setup.

[CAT600]

Needs to be some sort of order with this, if you were to split into two groups you could have a few different ways to split that list into Race/Street:

Slick/Radial
Caged/Uncaged
Race Fuel or E85/Unleaded
Stripped/Full Weight

Of the above, I think Slick/Radial is the best way to break them down... its easy to identify and lets face it if you go to the track with radials in the boot, chances are you drove it there, the Brembo's are still on the car and the swaybars are still residing underneath.

Also not to many cars I know of run radials and get gutted out with weight reductions.

Daniel

[HEMI POWER]

Revzone have a XR6T that ran a 9 sec pass a few years back.Can find the exact time and mph when i get time.

[icer]

no need to put slicks/street etc. Feel free to make another thread.

This is just to show tuners who have 10.99 or better cars. In any street/race trim

[T4ME]

Originally Posted by icer

no need to put slicks/street etc. Feel free to make another thread.

This is just to show tuners who have 10.99 or better cars. In any street/race trim

BTW,your 10.5 was done on semi slicks with no load rating so that's not street trim in the real world.You may drive around with miss matched rims wearing ET's but that's not street trim,that's icer trim.Signature change time I recon?

[CAT600]

There's no need, anyone that reads the thread will see it is not a realistic list to compare there street cars to and disregard it, Shops like Autotech, XFT, Elite, Bluepower etc that have strong forum presence and runs on the board for daily driven 10 second cars will continue to be sought out by members on here.

All you have succeeded in doing is creating a top 50 list of the quickest Turbo's in AUS, something that has been thrashed for years on Ford XR6 Turbo forums.

And we all know what that place is like.

Daniel

[Giant]

Originally Posted by CAT600

There's no need, anyone that reads the thread will see it is not a realistic list to compare there street cars to and disregard it, Shops like Autotech, XFT, Elite, Bluepower etc that have strong forum presence and runs on the board for daily driven 10 second cars will continue to be sought out by members on here.

All you have succeeded in doing is creating a top 50 list of the quickest Turbo's in AUS, something that has been thrashed for years on Ford XR6 Turbo forums.

And we all know what that place is like.

Daniel

I agree, look at the BPR shop sedan its a 11 second car in street trim only a 10 second car in race trim.

[icer]

WAAAA.

Back on topic kthnx.

[T4ME]

No need to cry about it,i'm sure you will run a 10 one day in full street trim ricer.

[prasac]

the car runs 137mph, it's very dangerous not to run like a M/T ET Street or something, a mate just ran 137.5mph in his TT Commondore on a Nankang 245 and it was a pretty hektic drive there was every chance the thing could have spun on itself and pounded into a wall.

is an M/T ET Street legal in Australia? no, but people still drive on them. these days with how good ET Streets/Nitto NT05R's (which are legal in Oz) anyone with half a brain and a boost controller can get them hooking up as well as a slick. we have run slicks and M/T 275 radials, only difference i have seen is the slicks are 5kg lighter each side.

in my eyes and alot of peoples eyes, if you drove to the track and put an M/T ET Street or drove there on them, we'd class that as street trim.

[Dash_XR]

IMO a Ford that's legally driven to the track is enough of a criteria. A shop that can setup an 8 second car might not necessarily be able to setup a quick but most importantly reliable streeter.

That's just my opinion.

[Sorted]

Originally Posted by icer

1 - VIC - Dyno-Mite Performance
Adrian Abela / CLINIC / BA XR6 Sedan Heathcote 9.844 @ 145.44

I always thought there was a Workshop Called CLINIC that modded this car - learn something new every day

Love this car - it is mad as

Here is its 9.98@144MPH @ AFF Drag Nats 2010 (Heathcote) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zqUUQAk7I3Q

And its two close calls on the Friday Night @ AFF Drag Nats 2010 (Heathcote)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yP-iH...eature=related

[icer]

Clinic is his workshop. Body Clinic Smash Repairs.

PRASEC & Dash, anyone who runs actual fast times (like 10's) agree with you. Slow people don't. People who try run 10s on street tyres simply are increasing their chance of death at 125+mph and obviously like to live on the edge. Hence why only one BA-FG has ever ran a 10 in true street tyre. And what was only a month or so ago (10.8x) after what...10+ years of these cars.

[prasac]

i thought Commodore owners were bad.

also if ANDRA staff notice you're using street tyres and running that MPH they will come and have a word with you and the likely outcome would be they tell u to leave.

[CAT600]

Icer I took my FG ZF car to Kwinana on pump fuel and on R1R's (cant get a more true street tyre than that) and went 11.10 @ 130 first and only pass, ran 107 to half track and slipped the whole of 4th gear on the ZF from the 1000, shoe-in 10 second pass if it wasnt for the auto... that was well over 2 years ago and was the fastest load rated tyre BA-FG at the time in AUS mate.

My AU (Sure its not a BA but it was BA_esque driveline with Modular/T56/IRS at the time) ran 2.08 to the 60' and 10.9 @ 138 on load rated tyres (R888).... done tons of passes like that, never moved more than a few mm off track during the pass, the tyres are speedrated to 300km/hr.

Increasing my chance of death in either of the above?..... no mate, that's dribble

The most unstable cars are on slicks, anyone who argued that is a fool

Icer, if I read Dash's comment correctly he is not agreeing with you mate.

Prasac, I agree (and already wrote this) if a car drives to the track and fits MT ET's (or similar) its 99% likely to be a street trim car

Daniel

[prasac]

choose the wrong slick, tyre pressure, get out of the groove, track is dewy/wet, yes a slick can be unstable but so can any tyre, not just a slick.

a properly chosen slick and with it all properly setup it's all good. i know i'd prefer to be going down the track on a slick or ET Street than a tyre that is specifically designed for road use.

slicks are used in all forms of racing, V8 Supercars, F1, Indy etc. might have to send them an email and tell 'em to race on street tyres

[CAT600]

Paulie I didnt say they were SAFER, I said they were not unsafe....

"better send an email to Nissan and tell them to fit ET streets to GT-R's"

Pretty dumb thing to say yeah?

People come on here quoting 8-second cars as being credible examples to backup a workshop's experiance on setting up a reliable 10-second street package.

It's like saying "Prasac is the go-to guy to set up a 10 second streetcar" when we all know he's a drag-racer (well will be one day)

Daniel

[prasac]

you need the right tyre for the right purpose, it's as easy as that. same as a car you build a car to what you want to achieve out of it or what you're budget is.

10-sec street cars too slow, 8-sec or even 7-sec street cars that's my thing lol:

can a 1200hp, 8-second engine make a good street engine, i don't see why not. we are talking only motor here, nothing else.

throw the engine out of the Capri into a BA-FG and it should be just as reliable as anything out there. can i say 100% for sure, no i can't.

tex recently said he has done 36000km's of street driving, well the Capri's engine has done the same. it is showing around 1200hp at the engine, has done 300+ 1/4 mile passes, 100+ dyno runs, numerous Powercruise, Supernats etc events where the car has been thrashed like crazy, ok, it's not driven daily it's only a weekend, which i'd assume a few of these quicker cars are as well.

what's the maintenance on it like, no more than a normal high performance street car. all that has ever been done to the engine was about 3 or 4 spark plug changes (more than usual but racing kills them, however they are cheap $5 plugs anyway, not dear iridium etc), coolant topped up, oil changed every 5000km's and the head bolts were checked about 3 months ago to see if they were still tight. the street driving tune, is also the race tune. the car is driven sensibly on the street, sticking to speed etc, it's not thrashed or anything.

[Giant]

Originally Posted by CAT600

Paulie I didnt say they were SAFER, I said they were not unsafe....

"better send an email to Nissan and tell them to fit ET streets to GT-R's"

Pretty dumb thing to say yeah?

People come on here quoting 8-second cars as being credible examples to backup a workshop's experiance on setting up a reliable 10-second street package.

It's like saying "Prasac is the go-to guy to set up a 10 second streetcar" when we all know he's a drag-racer (well will be one day)

Daniel

I was drag racing against Prasac only a few weekends ago. But I guess like all the guys that go fast the grass roots level doesn't count for much.

[CAT600]

How many people seriously drive there F6 into a workshop and say:

"I want a reliable 1200hp engine, reliable driveline behind it and a quiet fuel system to support that power so I can drive it every day but go to the track and run a 8-9 second pass... of course it will need to have an acceptable exhaust so I dont get pulled over constantly and comfortable suspension"

What out the above can be realistically expected and achieved in a 1800+kg Falcon in street trim?

So Can a 1200hp, 8 second PACKAGE make a good street PACKAGE?

Not in an 1800+kg Falcon!

I've mentioned it a couple of times now, but Christians 9.98 is pretty much where its at, someone will go faster of course but that's the benchmark for a street trim car.

This thread is about highlighting what shops can provide that kind of package and I reckon that car, through to the numerous sub-10.99 second examples with OEM-style drivelines and full interiors/brakes/suspension are what should be focused on going of the OP

Unless Icer actually meant to create a top-50 list that is

Daniel

[prasac]

Originally Posted by CAT600

I've mentioned it a couple of times now, but Christians 9.98 is pretty much where its at, someone will go faster of course but that's the benchmark for a street trim car.

i like the fact it runs the factory box etc and it's nothing crazy, set a goal and build everything to suit. it's basic common sense yet u see alot of people get it wrong.

i like the thread, me and a mate were talking about it last night, we were shocked at how many 10-second XR6T's are out there, well over 50. also makes me sad, being a V8 guy, probably count all the 10-sec blown/turbo BOSS BA-FG's on 2 hands

[CAT600]

Dont worry Giant, Paulie and I will still be stoushing long after this thread is dead!

It was a little backhander for the V8 Supercar tyre comment

Grass roots?, i'm still tipping fuel in the Victa!

Daniel

[prasac]

Originally Posted by CAT600

It was a little backhander for the V8 Supercar tyre comment

i was hoping you picked up on that

[icer]

hang on. All cars don't just jump into 8 sec pass territory. They all start at 10s then 9s then 8s. This thread is for 10.99 tuned cars or faster. Sure they may be running 8s in full drag slicks now, but once upon a time, they fell into the category where they ran 10s in a street registered car with full weight. There may be 1 out of all the above list where this did not happen at some stage.

So even if they were full street registered and ran even a 10.99, they come under the OP. For good measure, we show their best times, not the worst time. Bev's car only made 340rwkw in 2009! The green and purple g-tech cars were on the road when into the 10s (even 9s). Same as Lee and blueboost's. So they ALL fall under the OP at SOME stage.

[CAT600]

Originally Posted by icer

hang on. All cars don't just jump into 8 sec pass territory. They all start at 10s then 9s then 8s. This thread is for 10.99 tuned cars or faster. Sure they may be running 8s in full drag slicks now, but once upon a time, they fell into the category where they ran 10s in a street registered car with full weight....

So list those times, not the race trim times.

I fail to see how you do not acknowledge that your words (ergo intention) in the OP and the list you "created" walk two different lines.

If you believe that a shop that can screw together a mid-high 9 second car in race trim (cage/weight reductions/purpose suspension/alternative transmissions) automatically has the credibility to turn out the most successful (and you did rank them in order) 10.99 or less "packages" then you are living in dream world

Daniel

[G6ET8U]

Originally Posted by CAT600

So list those times, not the race trim times.

I fail to see how you do not acknowledge that your words (ergo intention) in the OP and the list you "created" walk two different lines.

If you believe that a shop that can screw together a mid-high 9 second car in race trim (cage/weight reductions/purpose suspension/alternative transmissions) automatically has the credibility to turn out the most successful (and you did rank them in order) 10.99 or less "packages" then you are living in dream world

Daniel

And we love the kid because he always goes BANG!

Jack

[xrsprint94]

Great idea Icer and i do mean that. BUT.....as stated by many others here, there are simply too many variables to consider with a list like this and times that these cars have posted.
Yeh the car was tuned by XYZ but they did a track only tune on C16 for WOT only, removed swaybars and half the interior and the formally 11sec ride ride now runs a 10...
Like CAT600 stated the true stand out cars are those like Christians BF F6 with an off the shelf Nizpro stg2 kit, pump E85 and FULL weight on drag radials with a 6sp ZF auto that he drives it to work every single day....
THAT is the sort of thing that i look for in a workshop... ;)

[T4ME]

And this car.10.80@132+mph and 1.73 60ft
Std BF2 motor and std ZF with tune
Std turbo/cover
Only 50/50 mix of E85,alot more timing to be fed on straight E85
60lb Dekkas
1 044 and P/West surgie
Plazmaman inlet manifold
275/35/18 Nitto Invo's 260 tread wear

Only thing removed was the spare.Must have a decent tune to manage this,I guess some good steering helped as well lol.

[prasac]

i would still like to see race cars put up also, as long as they are clearly identified for others, and as much info as possible put up about them.

let's people know what is achieveable with the I6's/Modulars/Coyote's etc. some people may catch the drag racing bug and say ''bugger it, i want to see how far i can go with the car and go all out.''

i think Spiro from DLM's I6 motor and Dan's AU were prime examples, Dan's AU made it in Street Machine and both received 100's upon 100's of likes on Street Machine's facebook page, i reckon they got a few fans out of it from people not knowing just how good these engines can be.

[icer]

again, in lists like this, there will be always some unhappy campers. Bad luck imo

Spiros DML car was a daily car driven to work and back when he was running 10s in the manual, so well deserved as a street car.

Cat, the cars can do 9 sec passes with certain packages, but you cant factor in driver skill. Tuners can only offer power packages. If they can make say 480rwkw in a BA on their dyno, they know its a 9 sec package as they have already done one/two in the same/similar setup. So they can advert it as a drive in/out 9sec package *depending on driver.

But again, throw in ideas and times, and tuners, and in a few weeks ill take all the info and remake a new thread.