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13-06-2011, 12:50 PM | #31 | |||
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One reason for not buying a FG in 2008, is because you become Fords beta tester. The car will have faults and you know Ford won't do a dam thing to fix your car. That fix is in next years model, so go buy that will be the official answer, implied or told outright by your friendly Ford dealer. Lots of people including me are well and truly over that new model experience. Yes Ford fans are very critical - perhaps to much. I suspect a lot of it is to do with a company that lets down its fans over and over again and doesn't change. |
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13-06-2011, 12:51 PM | #32 | |||
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This topic has been done to death in any thread some wish to raise it in. The emissions killed the 5.4, not the V8. The decision to replace the XR8 with the GS was at the last hour, rightly or wrongly. Effectively this means the GS "is" the XR8. Anyway.... due to that 0.5% of driving time being at the limit, where the SS has that advantage, some completely dismiss the XR8 as totally inferior. To answer your question; if you weren't around in 2008 when the FG obliterated the VE in every aspect then it's time you did the research.
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13-06-2011, 12:52 PM | #33 | ||
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Well some people are never satisfied,in the end Ford is a business if you were running a business that wasn't moving a product,would you keep making it.
Answer...NO your losing money. Did Ford take a handout when things were bad for the car game awhile back,I don't think they did unlike Holden and Mitsubishi and others. Ford took hard decisions and traded their way out.
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13-06-2011, 01:03 PM | #34 | |||
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13-06-2011, 01:04 PM | #35 | |||
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I think if Ford and FPV want to compete with the SS/V, the GS should come standard with GT wheels & stripes, and XR leather. Also Brembos should be optional. The wheels and stripes scream FPV and would better integrate the GS into the FPV family/separate it from the masses of XR6 family cruisers,, the XR leather would lift the interior, and optional Brembos could complete the performance package (for a lot of people). |
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13-06-2011, 01:10 PM | #36 | ||
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I don't blame you for looking at an SS.
FFS, the Thunder edition that is out at the moment is loaded and presents good value. For me to replace my XR6T Lux/tech with a new one for under $50k would take some work.........or I rock into any red dealer and they have Thunder SS's (leather, 19's, touch screen etc) on the floor ready to go for $40K before haggling for a manual. (Having said that, I only just missed an ex demo 50th in Sunburst for low 30's - that would have been a buy!!)
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13-06-2011, 01:17 PM | #37 | |||
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Leather is optional (I would assume because a lot of people don't necessarily want their bum sticking to the seats in summer...) Brembo's are race brakes...why do you need them on a car that doesn't require them, except for the 'jerk off' factor...?
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13-06-2011, 01:37 PM | #38 | ||
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I spose the way i look at it is if you wouldnt buy something thats a tad off what u want because you can get something that is but its not what u like then your not a true fan flame me if you want but you cant proclaim to be blue blood when you buy the opposition then sit back and curse why ford dont work at a loss like holden have for years to give you an extra inch on your in-car tv screen im generalizing ofcourse.
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13-06-2011, 01:54 PM | #39 | ||
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If the SS tickles your fancy, BUY IT. It's pretty simple, why buy something that you don't want (XR6T) just to please the so called "faithful".
FACT : The sound of a V8 is addictive. IMO the VE SS looks tough with a nice set of deep dish rims and a drop in height. On a side note, I think both the XR6T and SS would benefit from having a more agrressive look than the basic XR6/SV6 hire car.
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13-06-2011, 02:11 PM | #40 | ||
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Hi all,
I'm a new member here & i've been a Ford man the best part of 40yrs & have had my present car EA 'S' since 1992 & it has been a great reliable daily drive car. But i'm now looking to move on hence my reply to this thread.I too have looked at & driven these cars mentioned from both stables & found that the SS & even the Maloo Ute look much more aggressive & cabin layout seems IMO more user friendly.The XR6T is an awesome ride but having had a GT earlier in my life you just can't beat the V8 for it's sound & smooth power.Being true to the Blue Oval can be a bit hard at times when what suits your needs is not always there in your preffered stable.I agree with other members posts that there is a gap in Fords lineup that seriously needs to be addressed.Having said that though,there are some very nice GT/GTP's out there for a very reasonable price. |
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13-06-2011, 02:31 PM | #41 | ||
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Doesn't the SS have 260kw? I'm pretty sure it has less torque with AFM as well.
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13-06-2011, 03:34 PM | #45 | |||
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Seriously welcome this is a great site with lots of friendly helpful people.
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13-06-2011, 03:59 PM | #46 | ||
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Im sorry , ill have to disagree with the OP . Ive came from a 06 ssv auto to a FG xrt auto and for me its a no contest . The commo auto is quite poor as it seems to select the incorrect gear most of the time , takes ages to shift from 1 to 2 when on the loud pedal and gets confussed when trying to kick down in drive . Classic case for me was merging onto to freeway at 80km/h , couldnt merge as was blocked in so planted it and the stupid thing went to 1st , smacked straight into the limiter which cut the engine so auto upshifted to 4th !! and bogged until it went back to 2nd .
The A piller blind spot is a safety concern and they have done nothing to fix it , try going around a roundabout or tight right corner and spot on coming cars . The L98's whilst being a good engine are prone to lifter noise and expect 16l-18l per 100 km in the city . Falcon goes better , drinks less , turns in better and has a nicer interior only down fall is the rear end traction . adam |
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13-06-2011, 04:04 PM | #47 | |||
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The SS-V redline gets brembos, colour touchscreen interface, satnav, CD-rip with onboard storage for 15 CDs, side AND curtain airbags (GS only has curtain), reverse parking sensors, reverse camera, leather seat trim, dual zone air con. As an overall package, the SS-V redline is a way better proposition for the average buyer. |
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13-06-2011, 04:16 PM | #48 | |||
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13-06-2011, 04:21 PM | #49 | ||
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GS gets you more than 260rwkw, and a decent auto.
The SSV gets you 260kW, and an inferior auto. You can buy most of the options found in the SSV for a GS, but can you buy the power in the GS for the SSV? No, you can't. It's unfortunate some here are of the glass-half-empty variety. For the power you get in a GTS, less than 260rwkw, I think the GS is a great bargain.
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Something like this could save you from the DARK SIDE it's basicially brand new just with an older built date hope links are allowed here it is http://www.carsales.com.au/all-cars/demo/details.aspx?Cr=3&R=8997329&keywords=&trecs=420&__ Ns=pCar_PriceSort_Decimal|1||pCar_RankSort_Int32|1 ||pCar_Make_String|0||pCar_Model_String|0&__sid=13 07AF2378C9&__Nne=15&__Qpb=1&seot=1&__N=1216 1246 1247 1252 1282 4294966285 4294966463 4294933212&silo=1011
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13-06-2011, 04:36 PM | #52 | |||
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13-06-2011, 04:40 PM | #53 | |||
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Edit. I am wrong; what does Government Motors Holden care if it's not their money, so, yes, it's a good ploy after all.
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13-06-2011, 04:49 PM | #55 | |||
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13-06-2011, 04:54 PM | #56 | |||
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Here we go again, whip out the usual rubbish. Got any evidence that Holden sells at a loss? |
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13-06-2011, 06:03 PM | #57 | ||
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Back to the topic - good luck if you get the SS. It sounds great, and that will be great for you to listen to when the xr6t in the next lane blows you into the weeds, uses less fuel, and doesn't attract bogan chicks like flies...
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13-06-2011, 06:19 PM | #58 | |||
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at the moment, ford are close to an upgrade, whilst holden have already implemented their upgrade, so its just poor timing if you are looking to buy right now, and ****y thinks like touchscreens tickle your fancy. |
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13-06-2011, 06:22 PM | #59 | |||
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