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Old 03-08-2011, 01:23 AM   #31
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I would imagine they are Falcons on the grass? Not much they can do about it really. If people aren't buying them what else do you do? Realistically, it just enhances the reason why Falcon may not survive? I bet there aren't Cruise's sitting on grass at Holden?
And there never, ever will be, as to Cruze's, well who knows, lol.
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Old 03-08-2011, 03:52 AM   #32
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Ford Territory has best July in five years

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According to preliminary data, Ford sold 1500 Territory SUVs... The Territory’s July result is down slightly on the June tally of 1600 sales but compares favourably to just 600 Klugers, which have been constrained by a shortage of supply since the Japanese earthquake and tsunami in March.
Ford sold less territorys in july then june, so sales went down. and they only outsold kluger because of the shortage of supply of klugers, that shortage probably gained hundreds of sales for ford.
if there wasnt a shortage of supply of klugers, the territory sales might actually have looked quite bad?
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In case anyone is interested, US July sales of Chev Caprice..........90

July sales of Ford's ancient Crown Victoria....... 4,967

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Ford sold less territorys in july then june, so sales went down. and they only outsold kluger because of the shortage of supply of klugers, that shortage probably gained hundreds of sales for ford.
if there wasnt a shortage of supply of klugers, the territory sales might actually have looked quite bad?
But it wasn't so the numbers held pretty good, just be happy that Territory is back at 1500/mth,
the ensuing months will tell us whether Territory continues its success, product mix- Kludger doesn't have a diesel.
Territory sales are 50/50 petrol diesel which means the RWD I-6 is still a very strong seller
and with much improved fuel economy the word is spreading about Territory with lots of high series 4WD trade ins....
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Ford sold less territorys in july then june, so sales went down. and they only outsold kluger because of the shortage of supply of klugers, that shortage probably gained hundreds of sales for ford.
if there wasnt a shortage of supply of klugers, the territory sales might actually have looked quite bad?
Why do you even bother coming to this website??? It is for people who like Ford!!
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Old 03-08-2011, 08:40 AM   #36
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Ford sold less territorys in july then june, so sales went down. and they only outsold kluger because of the shortage of supply of klugers, that shortage probably gained hundreds of sales for ford.
if there wasnt a shortage of supply of klugers, the territory sales might actually have looked quite bad?
Now there you go again, letting a few facts get in the way of the boys singing another round of Kumbaya.
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Thats pretty good. It is no surprise really. It is a good car
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Why do you even bother coming to this website??? It is for people who like Ford!!
But he does have a point.

While the Territory sales are going well now it is only the first two months.
I would rather wait to see six months worth of sales data.
If after six months they are still selling consistently ~1500 a month then there is cause for celebration.
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In June this forum rightly stated that a large number of registrations were for dealer vehicles, what the July figures show that real customers are buying and registering vehicles and this is inspite of claims of slow orders (on the 2011 Territory thread), which shows there is still pent up demand.

Sales are strong, demand is strong - lets see how long it lasts.
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Old 03-08-2011, 11:32 AM   #40
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I visited the Broadmeadows plant approximately a month ago an can confirm there were THOUSANDS of new cars gathering dust. Ford will have trouble seling these once EcoLPI takes off.
How about Ford stick a Holden badge on them ??They will sell out ASAP!!!!
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How about Ford stick a Holden badge on them ??They will sell out ASAP!!!!
It is sad how that is so close to true
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Old 03-08-2011, 02:41 PM   #42
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Falcon and Territory in top 10! Cruze sedan only 167 units off Mazda 3 sedan and hatch, Commodore now leading Year to Date.


Top 10 sales by model:

1.Holden Commodore – 3551
2.Mazda3 – 3290
3.Toyota HiLux – 3147
4.Holden Cruze – 3123
5.Toyota Corolla – 2502
6.Hyundai i30 – 2232
7.Ford Falcon – 1835
8.Mitsubishi Lancer – 1539
9.Ford Territory – 1445
10.Mazda2 – 1421

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Ford just needs to get LPI out and push Falcon / Falcon ute a bit harder and it will out do Commodore with Falcon / Territory.

Interesting times ahead.
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That is the most even we have seen in a long time Falcon platform vss Commodore platform, curious to see Ute and LWB sales figures
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Thats great news which ever what you want to look at it.
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Just heard radio ad for Jeep Cherokee Sport....$35,0000 drive away.....

That's impressive and will stop Ford from "settling" with Territory, they may have to respond to protect their sales level...
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Just heard radio ad for Jeep Cherokee Sport....$35,0000 drive away.....

That's impressive and will stop Ford from "settling" with Territory, they may have to respond to protect their sales level...
If that was Grand Cherokee I'd be worried. I sat in a Cherokee 2 weeks ago and spent maybe 9 seconds at best. Felt like my knees were going to crush up to dash....Terry has no worries from this model...http://www.jeep.com.au/photos-cherokee
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In case anyone is interested, US July sales of Chev Caprice..........90

July sales of Ford's ancient Crown Victoria....... 4,967

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When does the Taurus actually take over?
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VFACTS: Toyota wrestles back top spot

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3 August 2011

By RON HAMMERTON

MARKET leader Toyota has set about making up lost ground after regaining top spot from Holden on the Australian motor vehicles sales ladder last month in the wake of stock shortages caused by the March earthquake and tsunami.

The Japanese giant – still feeling the effects of the disaster with sales slipping 25 per cent in July – has launched a massive two-month ‘Toyotathon’ sale as cars pour back into showrooms.

While the overall market last month was down just 1.7 per cent on July last year, the locally made Toyota Camry had its worst July for seven years, selling just 1372 vehicles – down 34.5 per cent on July 2010, latest VFACTS figures show.

Toyota’s July month market share was 16 per cent – down from 20.9 per cent in the corresponding month of 2010 and only 2.6 percentage points ahead of Holden’s 13.4 per cent July share.

Toyota Australia's senior executive director sales and marketing David Buttner said customers could look forward to strong availability of Toyota stock for the rest of the year.

"We have more than 20,000 vehicles arriving in both August and September to meet customer orders and support our two-month Toyotathon promotion," he said.

"Toyota has recovered more quickly than expected from production disruptions caused by the Japan earthquake and tsunami in March.

"Manufacturing plants supplying vehicles for the Australian market have worked hard to make up lost production.”

Overall, the industry has cut its losses as Japanese imports resume and new vehicles such as the revised Ford Territory come on stream, with June’s 11.6 per cent year-on-year decline pared back to a 1.7 per cent slide in July, when the industry shifted 80,991 vehicles.

Vehicle sales are now running just short of the magic million sales pace, with most industry pundits predicting that the market will make that number with ease, barring economic hiccups.

Last month, the only Toyota model to put its nose in front of last July’s figures was the evergreen HiLux light truck, which is made in Thailand. Its 3147 sales in July earned it third place on the Australian list of top sellers, behind the Holden Commodore (3551) and Mazda3 (3290).

Although July Commodore sales were down 6.1 per cent on last year, Holden’s large car has managed to resume its year-to-date lead over the pretender to the throne, the Mazda 3 – 24,583 to 24,501.

The Commodore was well supported by Holden’s other home-grown product, the Cruze small car, which managed more than 3000 sales for the second month in a row to take second place in the small car segment behind the Mazda3.

Holden, which beat stock-strapped Toyota for the first time for years in June, dropped back into its usual second place with 10,819 sales, 2161 units behind Toyota’s 12,980.

The Holden result was up 1.6 per cent on July last year, although it is still running 7.5 per cent down year-to-date.

Holden’s 2011 market share is holding relatively steady at 12.7 per cent, but Toyota’s slice of the market continues to erode, down from 20.3 per cent this time last year to 17 per cent YTD last month.

Ford rode the pent-up demand for its revised Territory to its best monthly result since November last year, selling 7769 units to cement third place on the 2011 sales ladder.

The Ford Territory’s resurgence, to 1445 units and SUV segment leadership last month, helped the Blue Oval to a 5.3 per cent sales gain in July, although Ford sales are down 6.3 per cent year-to-date – slightly worse than the overall market decline of 5.9 per cent for the first seven months of 2011.

While Ford’s imports all prospered in July, its locally made Falcon continued to flounder without its fleet-friendly LPG variant, down 21.6 per cent for the month and a whopping 40.5 per cent for the year.

Ford is now selling only half as many large cars as arch rival Holden, but it has its new Falcon EcoLPI model about to enter service.

South Korean importer Hyundai vaulted back into fourth place in the market in July with 7226 sales, pushing Mazda back to third place (6984).

The two leading importers are now both locked on 50,000 units apiece so far this year – Mazda just in front with 50,780 to Hyundai’s 50,204 – setting up an interesting race for the 2011 importer crown.

Mazda’s Mazda2 was the top-selling light car in the land in July (1421 units), displacing Hyundai’s long-time leader, the Getz, which is in run-out (1094 units) ahead of the launch in the next few weeks of the all-new Hyundai Accent.

Another strong performer in the light car segment was the Nissan Micra, whose 1184 sales in July helped to lift Nissan sales a healthy 12.1 per cent, to 5207 vehicles.

Year-to-date, Nissan is running ahead of the pack, up 4.5 per cent, with most of the gains coming from Micra (up 8.5 per cent) and Pathfinder (up 81.9 per cent).

Nissan took sixth place in July, ahead of Japanese import rival Mitsubishi, whose sales dipped 1.1 per cent, to 4972 vehicles.

The big mover in the industry top 10 was again Volkswagen, with the born-again German marque out-pacing all and sundry with a 17.3 per cent sales gain, to 3428 vehicles and eighth place.

VW is now running 7.7 per cent ahead of its 2010 pace, with big gains coming from Polo, Passat and Touareg. Its top-selling model, the Golf, slipped a little last month, but is still 8.4 per cent up on last year.

Honda bore the fruits of slashed prices and large increase in TV advertising presence with a 3.4 per cent sales rise in July, to 3257 units, putting it back in ninth place, ahead of Subaru, whose sales slipped 7.1 per cent to 3022.

Of the Japanese importers, Suzuki took one of the biggest hits, with sales down 17.2 per cent last month, to 1660 units, compared with 2004 for the same month last year.

Passenger cars continue to feel more heat than other segments, down 4.0 per cent in July and 8.0 per cent for the year so far, while SUVs have resumed their rise, up 1.8 per cent in July. Again, compact SUVs made the most gains, up 3.7 per cent, with sales of Hyundai’s ix35 rising 31.4 per cent, to 1063 vehicles, to take second slot behind the perennial leader, Subaru’s Forester (1081).

Light commercial vehicle sales were down 1.7 per cent in line with the market, reflecting the Japanese-marque production disruption and a few consumer jitters.

FCAI acting chief executive Steve Payne said that while the drop in sales in July was small compared with the same month last year, the overall drop in sales for the year-to-date of 5.9 per cent indicated consumers were continuing to delay new vehicle purchases.

“The supply of vehicles and components from Japan, following the earthquake and tsunami in March, has improved,” he said.

“However, sales of several popular models were still affected by supply constraints.”

Mr Payne said the FCAI was expecting sales to return to long-term trends as supply constraints were mitigated.

“We expect annual sales to be around one million vehicles for 2011,” he said.

Top ten makes July 2011:
Brand Sales Movement % Share %
Toyota 12,980 -24.8 16.0
Holden 10,819 +1.6 13.4
Ford 7769 +5.3 9.6
Hyundai 7226 10.6 8.9
Mazda 6984 -5.3 8.6
Nissan 5207 +12.1 6.4
Mitsubishi 4972 -1.1 6.1
Volkswagen 3428 +17.3 4.2
Honda 3257 3.4 4.0
Subaru 3022 -7.1 3.7
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BMW Group 26,120
Ford Mo Co 180,865
GM 214,915
Nissan N. America 84,601
Jaguar Land Rover 3,795
Toyota Mo Co 130,802
American Honda 80,502
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I tell you, with all due respect to the people that work there, but when ever I hear issues its got to do with manufacturing, cant do this, thats to complex etc etc. Then you have imports with supply issues aswell, very annoying and from the outside just doesnt seem flexible enough.
Forget what I said about Territory being supply limited, it has been on 3 day weeks, but now on 5 day weeks it isn't. From my calculations there is enough capacity to supply somewhere between 1500 to 1800 a month.

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The Nearmap pics from July 1 still show over 3500 cars still sitting around the place (they seemed to have learned that parking them on the grass didnt look good and parked more at back). They would be very mindful of letting this stock stay too high, if newer models are coming out in future (making 200 cars a day wont allow them to reduce stock). If they can only go 1 for 1 on Falcon / Territory, then i guess they would rather let Territory orders build up, than let unsold Falcons build up.
They aim for around 60 days of stock on hand, and they are only around 4 days over that, so they are exactly where they want to be. You can't have zero stock sitting waiting for delivery, so try getting the facts before you slag Ford off again troll.

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But it wasn't so the numbers held pretty good, just be happy that Territory is back at 1500/mth,
the ensuing months will tell us whether Territory continues its success, product mix- Kludger doesn't have a diesel.
Territory sales are 50/50 petrol diesel which means the RWD I-6 is still a very strong seller
and with much improved fuel economy the word is spreading about Territory with lots of high series 4WD trade ins....
Diesel Vs Petrol is actually about 70-80% diesel, about 20 petrols Vs 90 diesels approx a day. Its no suprise as basically every SZ you see on the road are sporting TDCi badges.
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[CODE] Ford 2011 2010
Ford Escape 175 230
Ford Falcon 1,835 2,342
Ford Falcon Ute 454 610
Ford Fiesta 877 757
Ford Focus 975 730
Ford Mondeo 562 412
Ford Ranger 4X2 356 468
Ford Ranger 4X4 981 733
Ford Territory 1,445 883
Ford Transit 89 136
Ford Transit Bus 2 21
Ford Transit C/C 18 53
Ford Total 7,769 7,375

Change 5.3%

Holden 2011 2010
Holden Astra 0 0
Holden Astra Convertible0 0
Holden Barina 620 1,101
Holden Barina Spark 263 0
Holden Caprice 139 110
Holden Captiva 5 318 333
Holden Captiva 7 765 879
Holden Colorado 4X2 111 190
Holden Colorado 4X4 854 766
Holden Combo 24 52
Holden Commodore 3,551 3,783
Holden Cruze 3,123 2,179
Holden Epica 175 160
Holden Monaro 0 0
Holden Statesman 0 40
Holden Utility 4X2 876 1,055
Holden Utility 4X4 0 0
Holden Viva 0 0
Holden Total 10,819 10,648

Change 1.6%

Toyota 2011 2010
Toyota Aurion 778 970
Toyota Avensis 0 36
Toyota Camry (4 cyl) 1,372 2,095
Toyota Coaster 20 28
Toyota Corolla 2,502 3,375
Toyota FJ Cruiser 79 0
Toyota Hiace Bus 168 211
Toyota Hiace Van 451 588
Toyota Hilux 4X2 1,104 1,209
Toyota Hilux 4X4 2,043 1,897
Toyota Kluger 627 1,149
Toyota Landcruiser PU/CC370 478
Toyota Landcruiser Wagon619 726
Toyota Prado 655 1,265
Toyota Prius 24 156
Toyota RAV4 909 1,139
Toyota Rukus 99 100
Toyota Tarago 39 131
Toyota Yaris 1,121 1,697
Toyota Total 12,980 17,250

Change -24.8%

Mazda 2011 2010
Mazda BT-50 4X2 472 431
Mazda BT-50 4X4 350 352
Mazda CX-7 738 764
Mazda CX-9 221 370
Mazda MX5 25 36
Mazda RX8 4 18
Mazda2 1,421 1,305
Mazda3 3,290 3,464
Mazda6 463 634
Mazda Total 6,984 7,374

Change -5.3%

Jeep 2011 2010
Jeep Cherokee 82 120
Jeep Grand Cherokee 255 38
Jeep Patriot 36 81
Jeep Wrangler 215 170
Jeep Total 588 409

Change 43.8%

Mercedes-Benz 2011 2010
Mercedes (15t) 50 24
Mercedes (7.5t) 19 10
Mercedes-Benz A-Class 0 0
Mercedes-Benz B-Class 221 182
Mercedes-Benz C-Class 471 490
Mercedes-Benz C-Coupe 147 0
Mercedes-Benz CLC-Class 1 68
Mercedes-Benz CL-Class 2 0
Mercedes-Benz CLK-Class 0 0
Mercedes-Benz CLS-Class 18 6
Mercedes-Benz E-Class 96 140
Mercedes-Benz E-Cpe/Conv57 136
Mercedes-Benz G-Class 6 0
Mercedes-Benz GL-Class 27 21
Mercedes-Benz G-Wagon 50 3
Mercedes-Benz M-Class 161 159
Mercedes-Benz R-Class 20 5
Mercedes-Benz S-Class 10 16
Mercedes-Benz SL-Class 0 5
Mercedes-Benz SLK-Class 103 34
Mercedes-Benz SLS-Class 1 1
Mercedes-Benz Sprinter 187 177
Mercedes-Benz Sprinter 11 3
Mercedes-Benz Viano 12 5
Mercedes-Benz Vito 91 75
Mercedes-Benz Vito Wagon12 7
Mercedes-Benz Total 1,773 1,567

Change 13.1%

Volkswagen 2011 2010
Volkswagen Amarok 4X2 19 0
Volkswagen Amarok 4X4 189 0
Volkswagen Caddy 79 95
Volkswagen Caddy Camper 35 17
Volkswagen Caravelle 5 6
Volkswagen Crafter 43 95
Volkswagen Eos 76 112
Volkswagen Golf 988 1,150
Volkswagen Jetta 46 217
Volkswagen Multivan 38 43
Volkswagen New Beetle 10 34
Volkswagen Beetle Cabrio5 11
Volkswagen Passat 516 323
Volkswagen Passat CC 71 114
Volkswagen Polo 594 227
Volkswagen Tiguan 367 314
Volkswagen Touareg 279 30
Volkswagen Transporter 57 114
Volkswagen Transporter 11 20
Volkswagen Total 3,428 2,922

Change 17.3%[/CODE]
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Saint Thomsa closes in September but they will forward build Crown Vics to fill last minute orders,
anytime after October to Jan 2012 we should start hearing about new Interceptor and Interceptor Ute sales...
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175 Epica's were sold in July.WTF!
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Forget what I said about Territory being supply limited, it has been on 3 day weeks, but now on 5 day weeks it isn't. From my calculations there is enough capacity to supply somewhere between 1500 to 1800 a month.

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They aim for around 60 days of stock on hand, and they are only around 4 days over that, so they are exactly where they want to be. You can't have zero stock sitting waiting for delivery, so try getting the facts before you slag Ford off again troll.

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Diesel Vs Petrol is actually about 70-80% diesel, about 20 petrols Vs 90 diesels approx a day. Its no suprise as basically every SZ you see on the road are sporting TDCi badges.
1. Great news, plenty of TCDI stock should help convert Territory enquiries into sales.

2. Well said, that BTB turns up like clockwork to spew negativity on good results and progress on problems.

3. Great news, media obviously sticking to Ford PR re 50/50 petrol/diesel sales mix,
the Ford chiefs must be delighted with high diesel sales, totally vindicates the decision.

Question,
If EcoLPI is a success, would Ford add Saturday shifts for a while before considering rebalancing the line?
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Saint Thomsa closes in September but they will forward build Crown Vics to fill last minute orders,
anytime after October to Jan 2012 we should start hearing about new Interceptor and Interceptor Ute sales...
I thought STAP was being reconfigured to build something else??

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It's amazing the Crown Victoria still sells as well as it does, considering it has not changed much in 20 years. A lot of people stateside are gonna be sad to see it go I think.
The CV is fleet sales to Police agencies only - no sales to the public at all. Police Departments in the US and Canadia are making a last-minute run on the CV before the shutters come down.
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It's amazing the Crown Victoria still sells as well as it does, considering it has not changed much in 20 years. A lot of people stateside are gonna be sad to see it go I think.
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I thought STAP was being reconfigured to build something else??
Nope, You're thinking of Oakville, the Canadian Auto Workers Union have deals with Ford to try and save jobs by increasing new product at Oakville AP where Edge/MKX, Flex and ugly MKT are built, they're putting in a new body shop and final assembly line, suggest new CD4 platform, Crossover based on Mondeo/Fusion... probably S-Max/Galaxy or some such.....
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It's amazing the Crown Victoria still sells as well as it does, considering it has not changed much in 20 years. A lot of people stateside are gonna be sad to see it go I think.
That's what happens when your major fan support buys their car second hand,
relying on fleet sales to keep it alive and available at a low second hand price.

A nice car that lived way beyond its time that became a victim of FWD rationalization....
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