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YES ..... we have choices. Great aint it but if these cars are not what tickles your fancy, buy the Camry, i30, Corolla, Landcruiser, G6ET ... what ever but no need to poo poo other peoples likes because it doesn't suit. If a Focus is the requirement ....GREAT ![]() ![]() If the GS was 250kw and was $45,000 ....... wonder what the conversation would be ..... if the GS had leather, sat nav, 315kw, electric seats, seat warmers, touch screen, lip stick holder and was 90k I wonder what the conversation would be ..... One thing I know it would end in tears because someone would say it doesn't suit them so they are crap and no one should buy them because of the their reasons. As far after sales service ..... don't worry .... they are all the same ...... as far as resale .... they are all so similar (the big cars) ..... as far as quality ...... they ALL have their issues. Quote:
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Yeap, can't help but wonder how much of it is simply the envy monster being let off its leash ?
A while back on another thread I posted links to cars for sale on carsales.com.au showing you could have a demo GS for $48K, $1,500 for a tune and you'd have a genuine hard core muscle car with circa 370-380 rwkw's for less than $50K. For those looking for a real high performance vehicle I would pose the question, what part of that isn't good value for money ? Such an extremly high performacne vehicle would definitly be "cut price" for the performance on offer IMO, but I guess there's always a Diahatsu Charade if the above doesn't tickle your fancy ![]() Last edited by Rodge; 20-06-2011 at 09:03 PM. |
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$60kish for FPV,HSV/Chrysler is pretty good with what comes under the hood... For import markup: Take a Porsche 911 Carrera for eg: Porsche USA: $79,000 ($75,049 AUD) Porsche Aus: $239,370 Take a Merc SL Roadster: MB UK: £63,555 ($97,688 AUD) MB Aus: $259,183 Im not comparing HSVs/FPVs with Porsche and MB products, but for what we get to play with for at least under $100k, we are pretty limited....
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The idea of the thread is simple.
Many people are whinging that the FPV GS is overpriced so obviously if that is the case there must be lots of similar or better products at the same or lower prices. No one seems to have found one yet. Bearing in mind that they are quicker across the 0-400m than anything from team B up to and including the 90k GTS. Maybe they are not so overpriced at all really....... |
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The F6 at $60k is the best bang for buck car available right at this point in time. Full stop. |
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Good thread flappist,its amazing how many didn't get the point.
Anyway as far as I'm concerned Ford put out a good product and every car has its problems not just Ford. So how about all the knockers give it a rest and start posting constructively for a change.
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Finally the message has been displayed ^^^ Game Set & Match !
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Because a 300kw+ large v8 sedan will cover what every australian needs/wants. And if they just realised this every australian would own one.
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Wouldn't the "best value" car depend on what the person wanted anyway?
You'd get 50,000 different answers from 50,000 different people (and 50,000 arguments). Personally I think enjoy them while they last because in todays politically correct times and "anti-hoonism" they're pushing it, all it takes is the media to get their hands on something like this and show Ford promoting hoon behavior and the government will knee-jerk big time to secure some votes for all the green warriors and the somebody think of the children town criers. Last edited by Franco Cozzo; 20-06-2011 at 10:51 PM. |
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"What sub 60 grand car will allow me to see all 4270 of my Facebook friends across 3 states in under 5 hours due to its 300+ killer wasps with room for 4 of the hottest ones that I added because their profile pics looked horn?" FPV... Of course! ![]() |
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First company to build a ute... Ford First Aussie Car with 5 star safety...Ford First locally built SUV... Ford Most Powerful 6 cyl on the market (?) Ford Car of the Year...Ford So for best performance V8 under $60,000... why look anywhere else?
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Aren't most complaining about the fact that you can't buy an XR8. That a ford lover is forced to buy an SS to get their V8 fix if they can't afford to buy a GS.
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The I6 is not the most powerful 6 I think, perhaps 'most powerful locally produced 6'? |
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i'm gobsmacked that on a forum for ford enthusiasts so many people can't grasp the concept.
its an entry level FPV. want bells and whistles? buy the GT or GT-P or GT-E. FPV - ford PERFORMANCE vehicles. they build performance cars. the name of the game has always been acceleration. read every mag review. they base the result largely on the numbers, because they mark them as performance cars. seriously, how hard is it. |
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I'm with Flappist and others, its getting a bit tedious reading post after post on other threads about how people now want a naturally aspirated XR8, what were all the bleaters doing when Ford did make an XR8 and hardly anyone bought one ? Why arn't they out there now buying the demo / run-out FG XR8's that are so plentiful on www.carsales.com.au ? Has it escaped their attention that Ford's inline six is light years ahead of Holdung's pathetic torqueless offerring that couldn't pull the skin off a rice pudding ? So how are we getting on with that list guys, where's all the alternatives seeing as the GS is alledged by so many to be "so over-priced" ![]() |
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In my opinion, the biggest problem with the GS is two-fold:
1. It costs about $25k more than an an XR6 and all buyers see is a better engine, wheels, seats etc and cannot correlate that price differential, instead of looking at the GS stadalone against it competitors. the GS does not look a hell of a lot different to an XR6 to the average punter. 2. It is not seen as a performance 'package'. People who buy a 300kw+ car want big brakes and wider wheels, plain and simple. No one would be concerned if the gadgets were not there and performace basics are. |
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And the GS argument, alot of people wanted a cut price FPV, not an expensive XR. I think the GS is good value but I understand why many feel the opposite, get into a $33k XR6 and it has the same interior and exterior as the GS. You're not buying the GS for a fancy interior though... |
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