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That is Holden's biggest let down, their ***** auto transmission.
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Dealers almost always stock the most povvo versions as that is what sells and as most people suffer from the 21st century "I want it NOW" syndrome bugger all are prepared to wait 6 weeks for a special order. Have you ever actually seen: BA XR8 or 6T with upgraded brakes? BA GT, Typhoon, Tornado or Pursuit with Brembos? BF GT, GT40, Cobra, Typhoon, Tornado or Pursuit with 6 spot Brembos? FG GS with Brembos? FG GT, F6, F6 Ute or Pursuit with 6 spot Brembos? I have seen 1 each of BA XR8 & 6T, BA Pursuit, BA Typhoon (mine) & BF Cobra and I used to actively look for them. The standard reply (especially on here) is "They are too expensive/you don't need them". The biggest selling FPV is povvo with stripes & decals. The biggest selling XR6T is povvo with ZF. *povvo means no factory options except those that are "free" as in , included in a promotion. |
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While i understand your point, it doesn't cost them anything to have it as an option.. specially when the brackets, lines and the brake package itself is sitting there to go on the FPV's.
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Which is nothing compared to what FPV could achieve with the 310 T6 and the Miami brothers. Daniel |
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I dont understand what the issue is, if the people want it give it to them or are people trying to protect FPV somehow? A XR6T/XR8 with brembos will never be a FPV, some people for many reasons dont want to or cant step up to a FPV so what about them? Its such an easy money spinner as many people just go aftermarket. Why not capture that? If I had the choice between a $5k package with Ford (warranted) and a $3-4k package aftermarket then I would spend the extra no worries. Makes it all even easier when all you do is tick a box.
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I did order 'premium brakes' on my BAII XR6T back in '05. With hindsight I'd have been better off keeping the $3k and spent it on Brembo brakes. Holden are smart offering the Brembo brakes and 19" wheels as a $2500 option. It represents good value for money and should be an option on the XR and G series Falcon's and the FPV GS.
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aussie cars and aussie jobs if it sells more who cares... competition improves the breed......
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What I don't accept is the 13.5L/100km on a cruisy country drive when there are enough members on here with F6 which flog stock versus stock HSV GTS and use much less fuel on an equivalent basis. I'm also expecting that a S/C Miami GS/GT will be decent on fuel too whilst handing it to the GTS as well.
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Heard the redline package is $1500 option as an introductory offer and will revert to $2500 sometime in the future. Its also available on the Calais V Sportwagon, something the media didnt really spell out. At $1500 its a no-brainer.
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The option game only works with easy dealer fit items.
Most people (ie, not true enthusiasts we have here), will bypass these options when they can buy a car off the floor or have it transferred from other stock in a day or two. To wait for a dealer to order bits and peices and wait for them to be fitted, or worse still wait for a car to be scheduled and built to order on the line is too much for them.
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Sure it will blitz the 6.2 with its flatter tourqe curve, but I think they could have done much much better. Holden aren't worried I don't think, it won't come close to swaying them from number 1 sales and they got their new motor on the horizon, also small block charged, but with DI also. Not to mention better over all package in the Holdens with better standard equipment. Well done to Holden for the real reason they are doing this, giving the customers what they want. Stoney!
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Even with the "better over all package in the Holdens with better standard equipment" HSV or Holden still couldn't convince me to even contemplate looking at their product. The bogan stigma doesn't sit well with me.
On the contrary, I don't think Ford and FPV have anything to worry about knowing the type of product HSV release.
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You don't think both cars have a Bogan stigma????? Any car maker that makes something with reasonable power that's worth nothing in 8 - 10 years time will have bogan's driving it. Lately though Bogans seem to be buying more korean cars these days. Bogans don't have enough money for new cars cause they are all on the dole so you can forget that..... Just a lame one eyed excuse.
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Put the scepticism and one eyed brand loyalty aside for a minute and have a look at what is going on here - Ford/FPV are bringing out some awesome cars, Holden/HSV are doing so too. They dont all have new bits and pieces but I seem to remember FPV launching the FG range with carryover BF wheels and maybe according to your logic it was because they were 'desperate'. Name any other country in the world where you can buy a RWD V8 with as many options, inclusions , safety additions and whatever else for the same price we do in Australia. Bet you can't. Regardless of where the parts come from, be it a failed export program or a lot of leftover stuff, the fact is that they are much better being available on cars than sitting in a spare parts warehouse - and unless you have been hiding under a rock somewhere you would know that customers love options. I dont like having the exact same car as anybody else - thats why I option things on it and modify it with aftermarket stuff. If I can put more fruit on it from factory, and have a better overall car, then I'm certainly going to do it. And since it's an option, the bloke behind me who buys the same car I do, doesnt have to have the same things I do on my car. Thats an ideal setup.
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