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Is there further breakdown on Ranger 4x4 vs HiLux? I’m assuming Ford retained lead.
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In the bush I'm seeing a lot of prados being replaced with Everest titanium.
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That's interesting, a lot of the competition in the $75k>$85k price bracket unless fleet sales ?
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Around here most people who had Commodores and Falcons have gone to the dual cab Utes and SUVs such as kluger. Looks like anyone who is replacing a sedan or wagon isn’t replacing it with another sedan or wagon. In the area there is even a new Escape with a big bull bar running around - it replaced a Camry. Similar to this ![]() |
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It was actually 5th in November with 211 sales behind Camry with 1913, Mazda 6 with 364, VW Passat with 360 and Skoda Octavia with 231 and is only 1 unit ahead of Octavia for 4th place in December. But as you so politely told Whales, dont let the facts get in the way of a good story..lol |
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No dual cabs at all. Most run around in single cab utes, mostly rodeos. But the family prados are being replaced with Everest. Just what I'm seeing here. Sedans have disappeared because you can't get anything new and suitable. Ie rwd.
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Fiesta 93, Focus 454, Mondeo 138, Escape 319, Everest 417. pretty grim numbers, thank goodness for Ranger and Mustang. |
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After reading the comments with regards to Astra and Colorado sales being predominantly demo rego's i took notice of my local Ford dealer as i drove past last night.
Half a dozen dual cab Rangers sitting on the new car lot to go with the half a dozen Mustangs that have been sitting around for a while now and this is only a small dealer so its quite likely that the figures for these two are not as genuine as they seem either. |
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If it wasn't for the Ranger Ford would be stuffed in this country.
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so it's understandable that the sales numbers are starting to wane as buyers begin holding off for the new model. FOA has enough inventory to "get through" to mid year when the new cars are expected to begin RHD production.. Ford is continuing to replenish stock and maintaining about 1,100 cars at dealerships, I think new year sales could crank a little lower but that will suit Ford stretching out inventory. Last edited by jpd80; 07-01-2018 at 12:59 PM. |
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NE Vic.. Just my local observations.
Newish VW Run-a-Mok and Entrails SUV's, out on the freeways its still predominantly new BM's, Merc's and lots of Mazda BT / Rangers dragging caravans. This is in no way a scientific study.
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What frustrates most of us is that Ford really hasn't built on the good work of Ranger or Mustang, they simply want the low hanging easy fruit in sales that requires the least effort for them. Now that they have ended local production, there even more banana lounges coming out... Sell 150 Mondeos? who cars, they all make some profit...Yeesh, it's like arguing with a dole bludger. |
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Ford will pass on numbers to sell at solid profits. The numbers of private sales that ford are getting now is very high, and usually high end models. Profits will be very good atm.
They have moved on from gm’s numbers at any cost, who cares about profits tactic. Hyundai, Mitsubishi and Nissan also go after numbers. Although Nissan are trying to change, and Hyundai have tried to with the new i30, and failed. Sales of the new model are down about 30% after they dropped the under 20k drive away pricing that made up 80% of the previous models sales. They have just introduced an even cheaper decontented base model i30 to sneak the price down. |
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What would be interesting to note would be sales % increase/decrease in all Ford models for the 6 months following Falcons demise.
Then, using that information as a fact, estimate what GMH's sales figures would like applying similar logic (%) to all there models post the commodore era. 18' will be an interesting year on a few fronts for sure. |
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Perhaps, but the Ranger IS here, so Ford ISN'T stuffed. (Just saying)
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20-30 years ago if we didn't have Falcon we would have been stuffed. Its all hypothetical
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Why oh why can't Ford Aus bring themselves to call the Edge "Territory" instead of that god awful tyre name..
Territory has so much positive cache with buyers, using Endura is like starting at ground zero with no credibility. I mean, didn't they learn anything from Escape-Kuga-Escape? |
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On the other, you have a new Commodore situation whereby previous Territory owners will savage the new car for not being a true Territory successor, ie no petrol/no 7 seater/no rwd biased platform ect ect. Edge would have been a perfect name, sadly the Endura is going to be battling the stupid name thing from the outset and probably overshadow its true worth.
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To me, it is just a name, for continuity sake and brand reputation I think keeping Territory name would have been fine.
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I have recently returned traveling +5000km’s in Outback Queensland, NSW and South Australia and saw zero Everest and zero Ranger. Mostly Toyota Landcruisers, Prado’s, Nissan Patrols and Mitsubishi utes. Everest with its 80ltr fuel tank is next to useless touring the bush.
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