Club trailer

Just to help you E-series boys out

http://www.dotars.gov.au/transreg/vsb/vsb_01.aspx

[EDXR6T]

(-jjM-) if ur interested we have a whole wreck sittin at our place, we can donate the rear end to yas, sedan, ex taxi, we dont want it, in fact we really just want it gone

ps. anyone wondering y im in my bros account, computers acting ghey cbf changinr :p

[rawlinna]

Hi guys..

I don't want to dampen your enthusiasm for what is a great idea..

But if you read through the VSB-1 bulletin (the link that BlackLS posted to DOTARS), you'll find the configuration you're considering, as shown in the picture, doesn't comply with current trailer regulations.

The load length forward of the axle must be longer than the load length behind the axle.

This forward length doesn't include the drawbar

Keep that in mind if you want it to be legal on the road.

[EFFalcon]

considering that, there is prolly no reason we couldn't go all the way to the B pillar with the trailer, would make it somewhat bigger, but would also allow much better storage options.

[rawlinna]

Originally Posted by EFFalcon

considering that, there is prolly no reason we couldn't go all the way to the B pillar with the trailer, would make it somewhat bigger, but would also allow much better storage options.

Good thinking EFF..
If you go to the B pillar you could maybe have a roll out BBQ in the front section (where the back door would normally be) and you've still got heaps of storage in the centre and back section..

I work with trailers.. If you want help with a frame, or ideas on how to keep it legal, safe and tow well, I've got plenty of free steel that's suitable and a MIG, and spray equipment.

You'd need someone who is prepared to put some time into the bodywork

Young Jack Trouty knows where to contact me if you're interested.

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[EFFalcon]

Thanks for the offer rawlinna, your expertice may well come in handy

[hobo]

ha ha good idea.

[Aaron_EF8]

I have a question!

The original plans were to run the original EF-EL Watts Link rear suspension, but will that be safe on a single axle trailer, or will it need to be converted to leaf springs?

If the original suspension can be retained, an SLS system would probably work a treat, and could be lowered when not in use :P

[LUXO_8]

it'd need a diff housing to retain the watts link....but shouldnt be a problem IMO...

sls would be cool as,. i can donate shocks, springs, lines... havent got a pump though

[EFFalcon]

what would make the standard suspension unsafe?
if it retained the diff/trailing arms etc?

[Aaron_EF8]

The 4 link setup in E-Series sedans uses very different length arms, and it causes 'rear-steer' when cornering. Because the upper arms are diffeent length, when the car gets body roll, the side of the diff on the inside of the corner gets pulled forward, while at the same time, the outside gets pushed backwards. This makes the leading edge of the rear wheels face towards the outside of the corner, and makes the rear of the car (or trailer) want to go towards the outside of the corner. The other thing is if the trailer ever started to sway whilst being towed, this rear-steer would make the swaying a lot worse.

I don't know if It makes a difference on a single axle trailer, but it's certainly a fairly big problem XE-EF sedans.

[Walkinshaw]

Originally Posted by Aaron_EF8

I don't know if It makes a difference on a single axle trailer, but it's certainly a fairly big problem XE-EF sedans.

Use an EL

[LUXO_8]

easy...... fit AU IRS... lol....



cost? pfft

[Jason[98.EL]]

we can make a mock up of a diff housing less the bulg in the guts all we need is a diff for me to follow the input lines off ie the arms

as far as having someone to weld all the legal stuff im a boilermaker welder by trade......

if you want to see some of the stuff i build look at this site

www.watsonfarmmach.com.au

so all legalitys as to strength of the welds and things we have covered

jason

[efgiar]

yeah well there are a few things we will have to work around, eg length of trailer front of the axle, but shouldnt be a problem if we use the bpillar. i think i might fix a proper trailer axle and leaf springs as per aarons concerns. will get in contact with those wanting to donate those bodys and ill organise a pickup of them. thanks guys

[efgiar]

and what do you guys think of respraying it a totally wild color rather then the e-series color? just need someone that has time and equipment to do it? because i think it might be hard to find a really good rear section of a nice color. would be easier for construction aswell. just an idea

[AshMan]

Can I maybe donate a small toolkit (a supercheap jobby) or a first aid kit or somethin? Or even the trailer plug and a wiring loom?

Just an idea.

[fairmont1998]

Paint it Cinnamon!

[efgiar]

lol all donations are welcome, no matter how big or small i will try put it into the design of the trailer, toolkit + medipack would be awesome tho, didnt even think of that

paint i think will be a backyard job depending on what car we get and condition of paint etc etc

[AshMan]

Originally Posted by efgiar

lol all donations are welcome, no matter how big or small i will try put it into the design of the trailer, toolkit + medipack would be awesome tho, didnt even think of that

I'll see what I can do.

Cheers

[efgiar]

champion

[NZ]

Why not do away with the upper links and make a brace from the upper trailing arm mounts down to the lower trailing arms. That would elimenate this steering prob and keep the ability to use SLS suspension on it. You'd probably need to make some stronger arms tho.

[Jason[98.EL]]

well as i have told efgiar i can get the trailers regoed with minimal fuss ( i have contacts in this area we do trailers where i work)

this will help with that side of things

jason

[NZ]

My revolutionary skills at paintshop.

[efgiar]

interesting idea karl, wouldnt that give the diff more play in it tho?

[Jason[98.EL]]

Originally Posted by NZ

My revolutionary skills at paintshop.

very crude but im used to working with drawings like that lol

so we can work on the suspension if we want it like that

i have a set of stock springs here that may come in handy with that design

jason

[Jason[98.EL]]

mods please make this a sticky

i think this is a great idea

jason

[efgiar]

so u think that will work karl and jason? and it wont have any problems later down the track?

[Psycho Chicken]

Originally Posted by Walkinshaw

I lost my temper with it at one stage and got stuck into it with a brake rotor

Amatures. We tow them around over here.

[EDXR6T]

COME GRAB MY TAXI!!LOL

should b shweet to see this up and going
but yer as said buy JJM i got a full ed at home with a diff and full rear suspension

so yer take it in to consideration