2018 Australia Day

[Syndrome]

With a number of local councils going beyond their mandate and disrespecting this nation by not wanting to celebrate Australia Day, it would be a good idea to setup a BBQs in front of said council offices and have people en masse celebrate the day and demonstrate that we don't agree with them.

Opinions please.

[Trump]

If this was a move by the Aboriginal Australians, people would be able to see their stance had merit and provide support. However what we have instead is local government pandering to the SJW greenie set, engaging in bullcrap point scoring at its worst.

[fordomatic]

the 1%er lefties destroying this country one useless issue at a time.

[smoo]

Anyone who is not Aboriginal and happy to jump on the latest lefty bandwagon by spitting in the face of Australia Day need to put up or shut up.

Own land? Gift it to local indigenous.
Have a decent job, one in a position of power? Step down so an indigenous person can fill that spot.
Perhaps move back to the country their ancestors originated from.

It is nothing more than virtue signaling from well off do gooder whites, happy to live in this land and reap all the benefits and rewards that come with it, but take the moral high ground for one week of the year to make themselves feel good.

[GO FURTHER]

I wonder how many of those councillors who voted against Australia Day will be turning up for work on Friday... Hypocrisy at its best.

[LG17]

The thing that annoys me is that Capt Arthur Philip actually tried to be peaceful but it didn't exactly work out that way and has been up and down ever since. There's always someone not happy with their lot.
These 'do-gooders' are trying to make themselves relevant in any way they can and end up causing even more problems.
In the past, English Generals sent many thousands of Aussies to their slaughter, yet we celebrate that day by remembering how brave those people were and the fact that they gave their lives so we could live in relative peace.
I don't like Anzac Day - does that mean I can start a disruptive movement to change the day?
It's history folks, nothing can change it but we should learn from it.
Carrying a grudge from so many generations ago when the world was a different place simply isn't healthy.
Oh by the way, I don't like Christmas Day either as my father in law was killed by a drunk driver - can we change that day too?

And I'm all for a bbq outside those council chambers too!

[Electrolyte Burns]

No comment!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F4AchHTN-XQ&t=3s

[commodorenutt]

Originally Posted by Syndrome

... it would be a good idea to setup a BBQs in front of said council offices and have people en masse celebrate the day and demonstrate that we don't agree with them.

The council offices will be empty.

Better off finding out where these pandering fools live, and set up a street party BBQ in their street, but hire a couple of bouncers to turn them away if they approach.

[auxr]

I'm not sure if anyone has really put this question to the other side other than the above mentioned grandstanding politicking that is starting to creep in the last two years - Jeez - one day of the year leave it alone.

My other suggestion would be to change the day to 1st January - the real Australia day.

[FairmontGS]

Meh... If it offends the indigenous peoples then happy to move it. I'm not wedded to 26th.

It can be another day at the end of January, as long as it's a Friday or Monday so we still get the long weekend (which is all we really care about).

[LG17]

Originally Posted by auxr

I'm not sure if anyone has really put this question to the other side other than the above mentioned grandstanding politicking that is starting to creep in the last two years - Jeez - one day of the year leave it alone.

My other suggestion would be to change the day to 1st January - the real Australia day.

But what happens to New Year's Day?

[csv8]

NAIDOC Week is for our indigenous people. So, if we cannt have Australia Day as Jan 26 then they cannt have Naidoc Week. Cuts both ways.

[auxr]

Originally Posted by LG17

But what happens to New Year's Day?

We celebrate new years day on 2 January - eezy peezy.

[LG17]

Originally Posted by auxr

We celebrate new years day on 2 January - eezy peezy.

But the 2nd of January isn't New Year's Day!

[Syndrome]

Originally Posted by FairmontGS

Meh... If it offends the indigenous peoples then happy to move it. I'm not wedded to 26th.

It can be another day at the end of January, as long as it's a Friday or Monday so we still get the long weekend (which is all we really care about).

If that is how you feel then fair enough. But UNTIL the date is changed (IF that were to EVER occur), 26th January is our national day.

[Burnout]

Originally Posted by FairmontGS

Meh... If it offends the indigenous peoples then happy to move it. I'm not wedded to 26th.

It can be another day at the end of January, as long as it's a Friday or Monday so we still get the long weekend (which is all we really care about).

I'm for February 29 for Aussie Day......

[auxr]

Originally Posted by LG17

But the 2nd of January isn't New Year's Day!

I know - but it makes just as much sense as changing the 26 January.

[mick taylor]

Originally Posted by smoo

Anyone who is not Aboriginal and happy to jump on the latest lefty bandwagon by spitting in the face of Australia Day need to put up or shut up.

Own land? Gift it to local indigenous.
Have a decent job, one in a position of power? Step down so an indigenous person can fill that spot.
Perhaps move back to the country their ancestors originated from.

It is nothing more than virtue signaling from well off do gooder whites, happy to live in this land and reap all the benefits and rewards that come with it, but take the moral high ground for one week of the year to make themselves feel good.

We should be all proud to be Aussies, not just a bunch of divided clowns and Aussies do wish to respect all in fact

[wodahs]

Do they have offence of the days meaning or the day's date ?
If it's the meaning then why move it as it will still have the same meaning , so why move it !
But if it's the date , well it's not the original date anyway and one date is as good as another so again why move it !

[Trevor 57]

the 'lefties' won the gay marriage trial so it was inevitable that they would need to find something new to **** up and gain their 15 seconds of fame and they have chosen to ask for Australia Day to moved, these ****ers are NEVER happy

[Bossxr8]

Changing the date won't do one damn thing to help the aboriginals. It's just an incredibly stupid thought that it will somehow make everything better.

[DJR-351]

Go Rita......

Rita Panahi, Herald Sun
January 24, 2018 10:36am

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/opi...aa4e432e74edd4

AUSTRALIAN celebrities have learnt nothing from their US brethren about the fatuity of playing politics. Other than alienating half their potential audience — closer to 90 per cent if they’re slamming Australia Day — artists tend to do their political cause more harm than good.

Just about every actor, singer, athlete and comedian publicly backed Hillary Clinton and we all know how well that turned out. There’s been much written about how Clinton’s celebrity endorsements were ultimately counter-productive.

That those in the artistic community lean further Left than the average member of the socialist alliance is nothing new, but now they can share their harebrained views of the world via social media.

They say never meet your heroes to save yourself disappointment. The same could be said about following them on social media where you’re typically regaled with insipid, ill-informed political insights on everything from border protection (it’s bad and racist) to Australia Day (it’s bad and racist).

It not only betrays how hopelessly out of touch most musicians and actors are with the mainstream but is also a sobering reminder that prolonged drug use can severely diminish cognitive skills. Stay off the pipe, kids.

The campaign against our national day is as tiresome as it is futile and assorted celebrities jumping on the miserable activist bandwagon isn’t going to change hearts and minds.

Let’s be honest: changing the date or the name of the day won’t change a thing other than rewarding the loudest, most divisive agitators. It would not make one iota of difference to those genuinely disadvantaged in remote communities nor shut up the self-loathers who just want an outlet for their unending supply of outrage.

If you’ve had the misfortune of watching or listening to the ABC or reading the plethora of Leftist publications, you’d be forgiven for thinking that Australia Day is a celebration of genocide and white power.

Meanwhile, the overwhelming majority of the country love the national day for what it actually represents and want it to remain on January 26, despite the nonsense put forward recently by a Leftist “think tank”.

Last year a poll commissioned by The Guardian, but carried out by a reputable polling company, found that 85 per cent wanted to keep Australia Day on January 26, with a similar number against any efforts to rename the day.

Despite the years of media coverage painting the day as deeply divisive, only 6 per cent of Australians felt negatively towards Australia Day.

Sadly, it’s that 6 per cent who are given disproportionate coverage in the media.

Among migrants, support for Australia Day was even higher, with 87 per cent against changing the date.

Even among indigenous Australians, only one in three felt negatively about Australia Day, while half supported changing the date. Hardly the consensus that we’ve been sold.

Less scientific polls completed in recent days back up those findings, including a Channel Seven poll that showed three in four are against changing the date.

It’s clear that, just like the rest of the population, there is great diversity of opinion among the indigenous community and it’s time we listened to a broader range of voices rather than the usual dial-a-quote activists.

Aboriginal leaders such as Jacinta Price and Dr Anthony Dillon are fed up with the annual debate.

“Dumping Australia Day is a bad idea firstly because it’s a distraction from more serious issues like child abuse, violence, homelessness and unemployment and, secondly, it promotes the myth that Aboriginal people are upset by a date,” Dr Dillon told the Herald Sun. “If you really want to help Aboriginal people, do something practical. People celebrate that day because Australia is a great place to live ... no one is celebrating genocide.”

Price believes the “crippling state of mourning” encouraged by some in the community is damaging.

“The future is far more important to me than our past,” she wrote. “Why aren’t these people who protest about changing the date as concerned about the Aboriginal people affected by domestic violence, alcohol and drug abuse? Why aren’t the marches for murdered Aboriginal women as big as the marches on Australia Day? I don’t want anyone to feel guilty or bad for feeling joy and celebrating a country we love.”

If you live in Australia, whether you were fortunate enough to be born here or migrated here as I have, then you have won the lottery of life.

In a relatively short period Australia has become a nation that we can all be immensely proud of: a tolerant, welcoming and peaceful corner of the world. We are one of the most desirable places on the planet to call home and have built a peaceful, prosperous and egalitarian society.

Having the likes of Darren Hayes, Pat Cash, Shane Jacobson or Jimmy Barnes jump on the “change-the-date” bandwagon will not do anything other than irritate a few of their fans.

Australians are too smart to be swayed by celebrity opinion. Barnes in particular has been particularly active on social media in recent weeks.

The rocker and sometime cruise-boat crooner took to twitter to abuse Home Affairs Minister Peter Dutton, Minister for Environment and Energy Josh Frydenberg and most recently Australian Conservatives senator Cory Bernardi.

The reaction of certain musicians to Bernardi’s Australia Day playlist was particularly petulant. Fancy a musician trying to dictate who can or cannot listen to their music or add their track to a Spotify playlist.

The more we discuss Australia Day, the clearer it is that there is a chasm between community sentiment and attitudes pushed by media, political and celebrity class.

Rita Panahi is a Herald Sun columnist

[Rallye Sport]

As already pointed out if we all turn up to the local council office on Australia day there'd be no one there. But even if there was its not the employees pushing the issue its the councillors.
People seem to think the actual paid staff all meet in a dark chamber every day, plotting how to defraud struggling senior citizens of there pensions, whilst sitting in chairs made from the bones of small children that met their fate in the councils sub standard playgrounds.
The real 'creeps' are the councillors, aligning themselves with political parties for matters of self interest or in a vain attempt to step into the political arena themselves.
If anyones serious about the matter, hold a bbq outside the next meeting of council or better still attend said meeting... remember your apathy allows these people to get away with what they do.
So who's going to visit they're next meeting of council?

[jpblue1000]

I'm one of those snowflake leftist pansies and can differentiate between the meaning, the day and the symbolism of Australia day being January 26th to the Australian psyche.
I am also sixth generation Australian.
I have friends of aboriginal heritage and understand the perception from their cultural point of view.
Plus I think if Australia day is celebrated as I saw many Australians do then the respect and understanding of Australian national pride being celebrated in name only, then this can happen at any other time. What cultural events celebrating Australia do the majority attend, and in what state of mind and body.
Reminds me if the debacle Gallipoli cove became on Anzac day for many years.
Why get drunk and embarrassing while alienating a culture on a symbolically important day for them, when it means very little to the majority
Move Australia day from invasion day.
JP

[Jastel]

So called "Public Holidays" are just another day at work for a lot of people in a 24/7 world...

[GO FURTHER]

Originally Posted by wodahs

Do they have offence of the days meaning or the day's date ?
If it's the meaning then why move it as it will still have the same meaning , so why move it !
But if it's the date , well it's not the original date anyway and one date is as good as another so again why move it !

I agree if its about the damn date... What difference does it really make.
Queens birthday holiday is not her birthday
and Jesus was not born on Xmas day either.

[Doreturnonfoot]

To the original owners it is not a celebration to be had.
To me the arrival of convict ancestors in Australia is not celebrated.

To the folk who become citizens or receive the OAMs etc it is a celebration - so I think this is the future, for us to reflect on the good in people and to share our country with new citizens.

[nuthin' fancy]

I think this is all a political a car forum, started by a usual suspect and drawing many other usual suspects.