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Fiat POWAAH!
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Caught this on Media Watch, Today Tonight ran a story about Asian built cars coming in and destroying the Australian car manufacturing industry.
I didn't catch the TT episode because I despise it but it seems they got a lot of sales figures wrong, not too surprised about that really. Figured it might be interested to some here. You can catch the video and transcript here: http://www.abc.net.au/mediawatch/tra...s/s3248775.htm Interesting reading from Holden at the end too.
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please provide "correct" figures then to substantiate your theory.
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The correct figures are detailed in the link, and are provided by the federal chamber of auto industries.
They misrepresented year to date figures as figures for the past 12 months, which meant the figures were much, much lower. More than that, the point is more that it was poorly researched and written. |
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Would be expect anything less from Today Tonight?
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Typical today tonight trash, it's designed to pander to the thoughts of the I'll informed and uneducated dip ***** who would treat it as their primary news source, no wonder Aussies get dumber by the day. |
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There's no doubt that Asian and more specificly Korean cars are becoming a lot more popular but not as popular as the TT figures suggest. If someone is going to do a story like this, they need to get their figures right. The average Joe would just take the figures at face value and form their own opinions, which are wrong.
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There's more substance to stories on play school than there is on today tonight, the sad thing is that there are people who take their word on everything
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I remember they did a story entitled "Is your computer terminal?" Geddit? Funny, funny stuff.
![]() I've watched George Negus a few times and its heaps better than Today Tonight. Munners |
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I'm glad they did, These shows work by invoking fear into their audiences with the most out of context stories. People who believe them deserve the manipulation to be quite honest. The deception of the show is so apparent you'd think even the dumbest person would realise, yet these people trust the show and argue it's points with people who actually know what they're talking about constantly insulting their intelligence because they think they have a brain for once. And they'll fight the point right to the end (even though they don't even understand the point) not listening to reason, only these retarded shows.
Oh and the fact they've followed the same formula every week for the last 7yrs. Fuel prices, mortgage prices, pitbulls. I guess that's not entirely true they got a new host!!!
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This report would be so funny if it was made as a joke. Yet morons still watch this rubbish and believe it.
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Ford Australia are in cahoots with Ford USA ![]() Holden seemed pretty ****ed about it too, obviously they've spent a lot of money on prime time advertising on channel 7 (TT being within the prime time slot) only to be shat on by TT. Genius.
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But yes the dumbing down of society and trashy "news" shows which report cats up trees and fence disputes have helped turn most aussies into lazy *** morons who will swallow anything fed to them without question.
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I agree, this story was total rubbish...as a Holden employee to get to work on the localisation of the Cruze has been a real treat so to hear how it is now made in Korea is ridiculous and an insult to all the Aussie's who have busted their @$$ on this thing.
And spot on vztrt, those two comments....LOL, just LOL |
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BBC or Sky definately better for news though.
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Neo, maybe you could enlighten us to exactly what parts of the cruze are actually made in Australia. I understand the biggest supplier to Tier one suppliers to Holden for cruze parts is Holden itself. ie Holden import the cruze parts from Daewoo give them to suppliers, who assemble the parts and then send back to Holden. Whats more *** breaking, opening the boxes, or begging the federal government for $149 million to import a car in pieces. Being productive would look to be *** breaking for those public servants at Government Motors Holden, wouldnt it. |
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![]() Many claim Australian made and yet on the back of the label it clearly states, "Made in Australia from imported and local ingredients" or where the local content is greater "Made in Australia from local and imported ingredients". |
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they winge and groan and compalin about the aussie cars ( lemon laws ) no wonder why shows like yours turns people away from the aussie market ! and now you want people to buy aussie cars WELL HELLO be dammd if you do and dammm if you dont go figure !
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Remember its only got to be 50.1% Australian content by value in order to qualify as Australian Made unless i'm mistaken.
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Channel 7 faces Holden ire
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Isn't there laws against this sort of thing?
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You have to take them to court. Not to long a go they paid out a guy who they claimed was a property cheat. Ruined his business but he took them to court and won.
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It's surprising that with holden spending so much on advertising, that Channel 7 are still keen to run the story. I guess they want pie and to eat it too, even if the pie has more holes in it than swiss cheese.
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David Kock and sMel, Today Tonight, Weynking with the alleged Stars, Packed to the Carbon Shafters; yep, channel 7 is the first channel in national history to deserve to have its broadcasting licence revoked. Kerry Strokes should kill the virus by sticking his network where the sun doesn't shine.
I hope Holden and Ford and Toyota sue the bastards for punitive damages.
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WOOHOO,.......... Fence fight on tonight and to top it off Best Aussie Meat Pies. Riveting stuff.
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