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She ended up insisting on a 4cyl Rav4 - averages about 11-12 in suburban driving. CX7 was still my first choice - great looking car/SUV.
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people have just given up on life
the daily commute use to be a pleasant drive to work and back, now its race to the green light, dodge traffic going through the red, brake for the idiot who didnt indicate but thinks he has right of way by just swerving into the next lane, police book people for being falsely dobbed in or swearing in public rather than people stealing, murdering, etc. rego costs too much, insurance has gone up, fuel is almost at $4 a litre, everything costs more ............ its the point of WHY BOTHER anymore! ask someone "Ford or holden?" they say neither i own a beige toyota ....... or i dont really care the car is dead, long time ago, look at the designs of the future its all that conservative reconstituted homogenised bubbly crap that embraces the pull back motor and impracticability (if thats a word) of storing batteries where your groceries should be just so you can now get to the shopping centre for the cost of plugging it into the wall. the simple fact is people DONT care anymore the new decade billionaires will be those who own power stations, gone are the oil tycoons, the new money is in production of power, energiser will become the new super power in global consumer goods production and Ergon energy will be QLD's largest stakeholder of privately owned land since Columbus thats just the truth
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I think there's one extremely unexplored point here: The Falcon is a Family-size car.
Now what is a Family? I believe that the 'nuclear' family is an endangered species. Everyone has a mental image of either their family or another family, back in the day, of the Big Dad with his Big Ford for him to drive (because he's the man, of course) and the wife to be in the passenger seat and the three kids in the back. And as the Big Dad, of course he's going to choose the falcon! He's not gonna be seen driving one of those squashy, slow jap econo-boxes. He's got his family's comfort and safety to think of! So the only logical choice is a Big Man's Car, for a Big Country, the perennial Big Dad car, the Ford Falcon, king of the road. Now i'm exaggerating here a bit to illustrate a point, but you see where i'm coming from i'm sure. In these current days where it's odd to have a Man and his Wife and his three kids all before he turns 33, the shift in society has caused a shift in what is required for the Family-size Car.
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That's right, guys. Apparently the birth rate at the moment is the highest it's been in many, many years! I dare say the birth rate to normal married Man & Wife is the lowest it's been however, as the Nuclear family is a dying breed.
One thing that doesn't support my theory however is the dying sales of LWB models. Now these LWB models (Statesman & and the now deceased Fairlane) are rarely bought for family needs, but more for your average fat 50 year old with a bit of cash. What are they buying now?
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Yeah i agree with the comment what is a family these days. its not ma pa and two rugrats.
Its now ma pa (and thier current partners, maybe adam and steve, adam and eve, a dog, cat, a kid whose emo and on goofballs)... |
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inetersting topic..
we actually did the opposite for the Mrs and went from BA Ghia v8 to mazda 6 luxury sports, and now to FG XR6 . She bought the Mazda thinking yeah it looks nice, right size for her being a smaller size person and better on fuel, which all makes sense... what she didnt realise was how much more comfortable a large car is and also how much effortless power there is. So after driving it for a month or so she hated it so bad that we had to move it on in favour of the ford, which she absolutely loves. The Mazda was bumpy, rattly, slow and the fuel economy wasnt " that" amazing conisdering.. As far as Im concerned there will never be another small car in our garage, whatever the brand.
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You're right Swordsman88, dead right. So many people buy cars on a whim (i'ts a pretty colour - it has a good amount of cup holders - i might want to go four wheel driving one day) yet they'll endure a cumbersome, difficult to handle car for 7 years whilst only touching the beach twice, and the greater TCO difference is 40 times renting a superior vehicle for the purposes of 4wd-ing.
Manufacturers have blurred the lines so, so much which has confused people, even just in the last 5 or 6 years. With cars like mazda 3 that are considered a small car only 15cm shorter and heavier than a VL commodore which is considered a large car, nobody knows anymore! You would have had people furious about the prospect of a front wheel drive VL, but everyone is happy with a front-wheel drive mazda 3. "its okay because it's a small car" NO IT'S NOT!
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Perhaps downhill, in neutral with the engine off. The CX7 is shockingly bad on fuel, many people average 17 to 19 litres per 100km around town. You would be better off with a V8 Landcruiser for fuel use, honestly! |
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The new model economy is better but im told to expect 14-16's till the first service.
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Norm you must have done the SIDI test (heavy car with V6), wait until you try the real world, my neighbor has one it averages 16 + around town with traffic, load of kids etc...
He says it did well on a trip to the snow with all highway. |
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It was the first series.
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This thread is representative of my observation on my trip I did recently to NSW and driving an EL XR6 (memoirs of a young me driving my manual EF Falcon wagon) on the Great Western Highway to my old town.
It dawned on me that there was less old cars on the road but the even more upsetting fact (Remember I did year 12 in 1997) is the lack of Falcons and Commodores on the roads. Keep in mind that even in 1997 the sales of the local cars were kept alive by fleet turnover. Seems the late model Mazda 3, Mitsu Lancer VRX, Honda Civic and the Toyota Corolla are ruling the roads, in other words cars under 2.0L. My perception is that people are not short on money but rather choosing their new wheels differently. Even younguns typically doing up these small-mid cars with alloy wheels and tint (P plate rule influenced this as well as insurance costs and ultimately petrol). Seems the day of defending yr fathers honour in the school yard by driving a Household Holden or a Family Ford are well and truely over. I think people see these cars are crud, wasteful, yobbish and backward. Intrestingly I counted on one hand the number of "late-ish" VTII/AU and newer V8 Falcon/Commodores during the trip up. Seems maybe my XR8 is indeed rare these days, and I have to say thats fine by me. ![]() ![]()
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With leap forward in communications in 2010, customers mostly get p$ssed off seeing reps, and it's all done by fax/ phone/ teleconference etc. with tens of thousands of reps cars not required these days. As mentioned with novated leases, the purchasing manager just goes "you have $40k or $60k to spend" and the MULTI BRAND DEALERSHIPS (which most now are) just want your money as they no longer have the same brand loyalty to the manufacturers - read $$$ margin on imports !! It used to be that you dealt with the same car sales guy for life and now it's a different faceless world out there kiddies. Most threads on this forum dealing with car salesmen are negative and if we could just order the damn car over the internet w/o the b/s we would. |
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From an Age report on how Mercedes was dropping their A class and keeping their B class car
“That is despite booming sales of small cars, which are being bought as family cars by buyers seeking out more economical options. Since the mid-1990s light- and small-car sales have almost doubled, and now account for one in three new-vehicle sales and almost half the passenger car market.”
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Yup got it in one there too. I get ****ed with any telemarketing and hawking. Even though I might be interested or even want that product, soon as some pushy twit starts flapping thier chops I'm not interested. |
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^ It's because you know they aren't interested in what's best for you really, they are only interested in meeting their weekly quota.
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