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Old 10-10-2007, 06:54 PM   #1
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hi all does anyone have a AU T5 Manual gearbox for a I6 , im wanting to convert my AU XR6 turbo auto to manual..want to drift my AU and the Auto was good for Drag racing ,also have a AU BTR 4 Speed auto with major mods (kevlar clutchs ,valve body mods) and 2800 convertor if anyones interested just been removed and striped to inspect for any wear and tear and all is good its done about 10,000kms since built
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Old 10-10-2007, 07:14 PM   #2
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Hey I would strongly suggest not using a stock T5. They are a woeful gearbox and weak, very very weak.
Strongly recommend getting a T5 Z-spec or a dogset from PAR engineering. they both will set you back around the same money.
Ive got a rebuilt and strengthened manual in mine cause I shattered it with stock power pretty much.
If you posted this up about 2 months ago I would of gladly done a deal with you.
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Old 11-10-2007, 11:25 AM   #3
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hi all does anyone have a AU T5 Manual gearbox for a I6 , im wanting to convert my AU XR6 turbo auto to manual..want to drift my AU and the Auto was good for Drag racing ,also have a AU BTR 4 Speed auto with major mods (kevlar clutchs ,valve body mods) and 2800 convertor if anyones interested just been removed and striped to inspect for any wear and tear and all is good its done about 10,000kms since built
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How much did all that work set you back? I am pondering converting my auto to manual, or wondering if auto is the way to stay.

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Old 11-10-2007, 12:24 PM   #4
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Hey I would strongly suggest not using a stock T5. They are a woeful gearbox and weak, very very weak.
Strongly recommend getting a T5 Z-spec or a dogset from PAR engineering. they both will set you back around the same money.
Ive got a rebuilt and strengthened manual in mine cause I shattered it with stock power pretty much.
If you posted this up about 2 months ago I would of gladly done a deal with you.
Sounds like you know a bit about them mate! Were you hard on the T5 to kill it with standard power? Any idea what sorta power levels a T5 and T5Z can cope with?
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Old 11-10-2007, 12:40 PM   #5
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I have a z-spec box in my car. I believe they are rated for around 220-240RWKW. It all depends on how you drive though.

T5's, well there have been varying results with them. Rollin destroyed 3 with 270rwhp.
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How much did all that work set you back? I am pondering converting my auto to manual, or wondering if auto is the way to stay.

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Stop pondering George, you know there is only one way to go! Even if you can get a stronger auto for around the same money, it's still auto! Where is the fun in that?
I drive mine with a bit of spirit most of the time, and I don't know how to shift the best yet. The T5 in mine has not missed a beat yet! That is with the occasional miss and grind into 3rd, and it still takes it. Maybe I am just not driving it as hard as I think though.

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Old 11-10-2007, 05:32 PM   #7
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Stop pondering George, you know there is only one way to go! Even if you can get a stronger auto for around the same money, it's still auto! Where is the fun in that?
I drive mine with a bit of spirit most of the time, and I don't know how to shift the best yet. The T5 in mine has not missed a beat yet! That is with the occasional miss and grind into 3rd, and it still takes it. Maybe I am just not driving it as hard as I think though.

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Leave me alone Evan, the torment is beginning to hurt!

You could of course have some pity on me and come over so I can have another drive! LOL!

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Old 11-10-2007, 05:37 PM   #8
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i want his old auto!! leave it alone.. its mine GRRR... *now the wait to figure out finances begins *doh*
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Old 11-10-2007, 05:50 PM   #9
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gdm wreckers at archerfield had a series 2 au 5 spd box for $650 done 185000k's.still had the pedal box too.this was about 2 weeks ago though.
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Dude, take it so then GK has no choice but to get a manual!

If I end up going to Heathcote on Sunday George, you should come along and see if you can get me that 14 I have been hunting for! My skills are not quite yet up to the task, but I recon you could do it!

Btw, Hotrod, I recon you should give Mal Wood a call, they were more than helpful when I was hunting for my conversion. I am pretty sure they build the Z spec manuals anyway.

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or just grab a nice tremec T56 item..
cant go wrong then!!
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Old 11-10-2007, 06:21 PM   #12
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I have a z-spec box in my car. I believe they are rated for around 220-240RWKW. It all depends on how you drive though.

T5's, well there have been varying results with them. Rollin destroyed 3 with 270rwhp.
Not good man :( OED, I want your T5 z when you changeover!
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Dude, take it so then GK has no choice but to get a manual!

If I end up going to Heathcote on Sunday George, you should come along and see if you can get me that 14 I have been hunting for! My skills are not quite yet up to the task, but I recon you could do it!

Btw, Hotrod, I recon you should give Mal Wood a call, they were more than helpful when I was hunting for my conversion. I am pretty sure they build the Z spec manuals anyway.

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Ive seen over 300rwkw put through a Z spec and take it for a while, eventually gave up the ghost.
Umm yeah I gave the stockie a hard time.. 4000rpm dumps, flatchanging, burnouts, usually kind of stuff, although it lasted over 2 years. The brass button clutch ive got is what killed it, shock loading - T5's worst enemy.
The gearbox ive got now is a strengthened version of a Z spec, but not quiet a Tremec T56.
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Ive seen over 300rwkw put through a Z spec and take it for a while, eventually gave up the ghost.
Umm yeah I gave the stockie a hard time.. 4000rpm dumps, flatchanging, burnouts, usually kind of stuff, although it lasted over 2 years. The brass button clutch ive got is what killed it, shock loading - T5's worst enemy.
The gearbox ive got now is a strengthened version of a Z spec, but not quiet a Tremec T56.
Interesting. Do you mind if I ask what your new box cost?
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I've been musing about a V8 conversion also!

Help me I'm sick!

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You are sick George, and I think I can help....I have all the parts you need for the conversion!
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Interesting. Do you mind if I ask what your new box cost?
Yeah it was a $3240 dollars inc GST lol.
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Old 11-10-2007, 09:06 PM   #18
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i've got a z spec in the shed, built by mal wood. it's probably going fairly cheap. (did i mention 3rd is making a little noise) allthough i don't think it will be much to have another put in.
stiddy's on the money, my button clutch didn't help it. anyway if you want it let me know
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Thats funny, 3rd went in my Z spec aswell.
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i was right at the top of third, no wheelspin just foot planted, just about to get fourth and de de de de de . sort of sounded like it ripped a tooth off or something
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ah mine was full acceleration 2nd and put it into 3rd and it clunked.. thought that was a bit weird and then a few seconds later.. BANG.. shatter.. 3rd was totally stripped.
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ha ha mine drove home, i was freakin out thinking of the money i would have to spend on a 6 speed and i come into a intersection and my mate just say's "so you gunna finish it off" i was happy to just get it home. sorry for the hijack kind of
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Not good man :( OED, I want your T5 z when you changeover!
all going to plan, i should have a 6 speed nestled in my car within the coming months.

i have someone interested in my gearbox, clutch and flywheel already.
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Old 11-10-2007, 10:57 PM   #24
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so going by the latest stories the z-spec box is too?
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i think the saying should go..
Mal wood or bust LOL
or hollinger 6 speed V8 supercar box.. but then who has a spare 5-10k laying around for a gearbox... anyone?? no???

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like stiddy said above. Shock loading a T5 will kill it. Sledgehammer is running his stock 5 speed in his S1 Au XR8 and he has run upwards of 500 horsepower at the treads with the stock gearbox. Its all about ow you drive. Hot Rod wants it for drifting i would go a 6 speed but there not cheap. Have a talk to Mal woods Hot rod he's out your way he'll even put a hollinger straight out of a supercar for you for 15k if you want.
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Im running the stock auto in my xr8 and its giving me no dramas at all! Touch wood haha i drive i reasonably nice but still have some fun.
Lets hope it still holds up after the next few mods as it should be pushing 300+rwkw by then :hihi:
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like stiddy said above. Shock loading a T5 will kill it. Sledgehammer is running his stock 5 speed in his S1 Au XR8 and he has run upwards of 500 horsepower at the treads with the stock gearbox. Its all about ow you drive. Hot Rod wants it for drifting i would go a 6 speed but there not cheap. Have a talk to Mal woods Hot rod he's out your way he'll even put a hollinger straight out of a supercar for you for 15k if you want.
AU XR's also run Z-spec boxes I am lead to believe.
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As far as I know, only the hand built XR8's had the Z-spec boxes, which is no good for hotrod because the input shaft and bell housing is different for an I6. I don't think it is an easy job to fit one up. The XR6 boxes are just a bog stock T5 manual.

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yea, your right about the XR8's. also BA Mk1 Turbo's have z-spec 5 speeds.
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