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Bathed In A Yellow Glow
Join Date: Mar 2010
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See link for video http://www.drive.com.au/new-car-revi...14-gmu44x.html |
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FF.Com.Au Hardcore
Join Date: Nov 2008
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"Second most powerful car produced here".
Ummmm don't they mean 3rd? The GT-F being proven as the most powerful, followed by the GTS then the Clubsport. Or did they conveniently forget? ![]() Hell, with the numbers some GT335 owners had been getting on stock dyno runs, I'd go as far to say the Clubsport could even be 4th most powerful ![]() As soon as these articles mention a Holden and most powerful in a sentence I just stop reading. You know the article is going to be the same old **** they've been saying for years now. Nothing new here.
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FF.Com.Au Hardcore
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It might seem a hard ask, but the big players in the game are moving forward. New M5 is rated at sub 10L/100km
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FF.Com.Au Hardcore
Join Date: Nov 2008
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Just noticed they said the FGX XR8 has a 5.4l Supercharged engine
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But I can afford a 80k club sport and not a 200k amg. What's sad is once I'm done in NYC in two years I can still afford a clubsport and still can't afford a amg v8. Value for money right there. im ok with a generation behind. as is everyone who can afford one and not the other |
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Mopar! But Own F6's..
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So its also over 100Kg lighter than the XR8/FG GTs though? What else have they done to lighten it up other than aluminium bonnet?
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FF.Com.Au Hardcore
Join Date: Nov 2008
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Cheap parts and plastic everywhere.
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Not sure where they are getting the weight figure from but its actual mass is 1862kg.
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Regular Schmuck
Join Date: Dec 2004
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What amazes me is that a con for the Falcon is a more powerful Falcon being released in the future. Seriously?!
Clubsports always fit that gap between SS and GTS. Being priced at just below GTS will limit buyers, I would guess. |
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Join Date: Jul 2005
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Wouldn't expect any less from Hagon.
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FF.Com.Au Hardcore
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As soon as you start posting its time to ignore it. |
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FF.Com.Au Hardcore
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Clearly you didn't
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Pity the editors at Fairfax don't proof read the XR8 has a 5.0 Litre engine.
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Join Date: Sep 2005
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Care too elaborate? I'm not sticking up for Stazza......but what he says is dead right!its been proven to death.......
And those rims are a dead ringer for the Ford rims.....except for one less scallop! I find it funny how they say now the emphasis in the media has switched back to big powerful engines instead of tech as a priority for buyers ![]() ![]() |
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Done to death and proved nothing. The media is not switching anything, the article is clearly about the introduction of the LSA engine into the Clubsport (from LS3). It is the single biggest change to the car therefore of course it would dominate the review. Just like if Ford introduced the 5.2 Flatplane V8 from the GT350 into a Falcon, I'd expect the emphasis to be on that.
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![]() ![]() And I suppose you forgot about when ford first introduced the XrT or the 5.0supercharged 8. They were engine barnstormers, but media told us the publics priorities had changed to tech upgrades and handling. They did the same thing a week after the afore mentioned Dyno test. All of a sudden it wasn't power, but who was the fastest. Then John Bowe ran a Factory and challenge approved falcon at 290ks or something, to prove it was the fastest Aussie car. Then it was the quickest ever title....and all of a sudden they were doing track times at the drag strip for the brand new GTS.never done before! But hey, you'd be stupid to be a media stooge and not panda to the masses, which happen to be Holden fans in Aus so we can expect it every Time! |
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AWD Assassin
Join Date: Dec 2004
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New clubbie looks the goods and will have the brawn to earn street cred. A bit pricey but at least you get some good hardware inside and outside.
I'm a fan of what HSV do for their cars and their buyers.
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FF.Com.Au Hardcore
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Yep unfortunately its whats on the badge that counts
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Join Date: Sep 2005
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Most modern muscle cars don't have the power numbers on their badge anymore....and half those that do are a fictitious number that the accounts department came up with. The sort of people who buy these cars normally know exactly what power they have, while the rest of society rightly have no idea what their car makes! That's why cars get strapped to a dyno to find out who's car is the most powerful. Maybe it was a stupendous coincidence the GTF 351 is badged as a 351
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The performance figures suggest the quoted power figure is spot on. |
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Suggest all you like.......the above mentioned article again calls the GTS the most powerful, although they've done the testing and in the real world there's plenty of uncontested proof of GT335s getting roughly GTS figures and The GTF 351 going higher again. Badges mean squat to how much power a car has......deal with it! |
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Pull both engines out and test them on an engine dyno. Until you do that you can't discredit 430kw. And as I said the performance figures back up the wuited output. Deal with that and stop embarrassing yourself |
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I've personally seen 6 different LSA powered cars run over well over 20 passes at Heathcote. Not one I've seen has run faster than 13.0. The slowest run in my 335 GT was 12.9 fastest 12.6 stock everything, traction control on. They are slow junk. They can have the badge i'll take the time slip.
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Oh, and engine dynos ![]() Maybe you should follow along more closely! But hey, feel free to bring up performance and engine dynos if that's what you wish to chat about......it's a free world mate! |
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