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Old 16-11-2010, 01:14 PM   #1
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Default Now avalible 4.5ltr stage3 stroker engines

The game has now changed for us NA 6cyl

Crescent Motorsport have released 4.5ltr Stage 3 Stroker Engine

This engine will come standard with a CMS Stage 3 head & any choice of the 2..... 2a....or the 3 cam
They will have a comp ratio of 9:8:1 as a N/A engine at this stage.....

They will be sold as a long motor only & CMS will give you a 12/20 warranty with them when installed by an aproved repairer

$7350.00 & need an exchange block plus shipping

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Old 16-11-2010, 01:17 PM   #2
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Barra available ???

*Edit* Just been through their whole web site and NO mention of it anyways...?

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They've only announced it on Fordmods at this point.
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Wonder how much power these things kick out now and how reliable will it be, Now only if lotto comes up
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Old 16-11-2010, 05:32 PM   #5
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hey ross, you try it, if it works we will all get one, if not....sorry
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And how much would it cost to turbo and engineer a normal block?
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As far as power figures, with all the right combo CMS should see 220+ rwkw

I would rather NA with 200rwkw+ than a turbo or charged engine any day
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As far as power figures, with all the right combo CMS should see 220+ rwkw

I would rather NA with 200rwkw+ than a turbo or charged engine any day
Obviously you have never owned a turbo......
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Considering how stroked the motor is already, those pistons will be travelling at the speed of light now.
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Obviously you have never owned a turbo......
I have BOTH and my N/A is Waaaaay faster outta the hole period !

That may change with a ZF tune in the F6 though ?

Dont pedal turbo rubbish in this thread please guys..... this is a cubic inches first , turbo later kinda deal ...
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This quote was taken from fordmods website from cresent motorsport
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as far as power figures, with all the right combo we should see 220+ rwkw
Its seems to be around the same power as a bolt on supercharger kit. mmmm 4.5l na 6 goodness
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Yeah I'd like to see it to believe it.
Heres hoping he offers a 'higher' compression n/a version, and a low comp forged version. Also would be good if he would sell a short block so you can put a decent head/cam package on it.
Would like to know more about the engine though, it sounds interesting atleast.
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Old 22-11-2010, 12:22 PM   #13
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Also would be good if he would sell a short block so you can put a decent head/cam package on it.
Totally Agree - I already have the goods up top - just need the short block and all sweet.
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Totally Agree - I already have the goods up top - just need the short block and all sweet.

He is very secretive about it all too . Apparently you have to send the block up to him he does all work and you receive a motor all ready to go back in .
If you do open motor then warranty of any kind is void .
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7000bux buys a pretty impressive v8
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$7k won't build an impressive V8! try more around the $15-20k mark!
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pcman, not everyone wants an 8. Ive got an 8, but would happily get into a tough falcon n/a 6.
Planning on buying an AU XR6 next year and building it tough n/a for improved production track work, either that or saloon car series.
Still not sold on this stroker kit.
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wonder how long the engine would last with one of these
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Have they built one yet ?
Has it made that power ?
or is it a case of , 'it should do it'
Would be pretty good, not may E series around making an honest 200+ rwkw.
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will have to check this out.
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As far as power figures, with all the right combo CMS should see 220+ rwkw

I would rather NA with 200rwkw+ than a turbo or charged engine any day
When i spoke to him 2 months ago he said best he could get would be 200 he reckons.

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Have they built one yet ?
Has it made that power ?
or is it a case of , 'it should do it'
Would be pretty good, not may E series around making an honest 200+ rwkw.
This is what i was about to ask.
well ill be looking forward to someone building one of these soon then.

I dont know but i always thought stroking a motor that has been always been a decent stroke wouldnt do alot .
I know there is someone(ford mods guy) with a stroker kit that has got 198 at there own dyno day but thats about all .

Def looking forward to see if someone does this . Definatly shows there maybe more than 1 way to make power out of the motors in these things as this way i have not gone with my new bottom end
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I know there is someone(ford mods guy) with a stroker kit that has got 198 at there own dyno day but thats about all
ahhhhh his car is stroked! There was not alot of info around about that car - basically all I could find was it is a test mule that comes out to play on dyno days and it has a log manifold - not a bbm.... was wondering how it got to 198 as I was thinking ppl were getting high numbers these days with little work - thanks for the info

Although on the Dyno Day they had a Crescent 02/05/2010 it made
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Dazzler if you doing work on yours why dont u go the way of the guy on fordmods.He makes heaps of power apparently.
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13.7 with 208 hmmmm still bit unsure of these figures mate.
that fg is the same 13.69 on 208.
I think its time you put money into yours now sorted and join me in the 200's so im not the onloy sohc in the 200's
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13.7 with 208 hmmmm still bit unsure of these figures mate.
that fg is the same 13.69 on 208.
Why are you unsure about the figures Scott? Obviously these cars are not set up as yours was for 1/4 mile

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Nah

Mine hasnt event been set up for 1/4 yet .It was how it was . That is next on agenda to get it ready for 1/4 properly
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Mine hasnt event been set up for 1/4 yet .It was how it was . That is next on agenda to get it ready for 1/4 properly
Trying to get suspension done and also diff and clutch
What ?? I heard your car was a full chassis race car !

just messing, we will get there.
So many people out there trying to beat our times and dyno figure we have to try and stay one step ahead !

Will be an interesting 6 months !
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I said not set up "as" -

Slicks, Front Runners, Race Fuel, Weight loss, Surge Tank, Tune etc etc etc

One of those FG's even did the time on 19"s

FG's weigh more the Ea's

I read somewhere it has taken you years to get where you are now Scotty with alot of 1/4 runs & data taken over the years so the times they have laid down at the track are very respectable.

That's what I was getting at

Ps don't take anything I have written her as a personal attack - dunno why I have to write this but ppl take things I post the wrong way

Pps not taking anything away form the times it just how the game us played - all good
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