Vfacts march 2022

[DFB FGXR6]

https://www.carexpert.com.au/car-new...gures-released

Toyota 21,828 2.4%
Mazda 11,248 4.3%
Mitsubishi 9007 40.1%
Hyundai 6516 -4.9%
Kia 6051 4.3%
Ford 4245 -29.0%
MG 3962 20.0%
Isuzu Ute 3306 4.2%
Nissan 3168 -30.5%
Tesla 3097 NA

Toyota HiLux 6324
Toyota RAV4 4610
Mitsubishi Triton 3808
Mazda CX-5 3772
Tesla Model 3 3097
Ford Ranger 2960
Hyundai i30 2455
Isuzu D-Max 2447
Toyota Prado 2230
Toyota Corolla 1924
Mazda CX-30 1829

Ford Numbers -

Ford EcoSport – 0
Ford Endura – 0
Ford Escape – 101
Ford Everest – 514
Ford Fiesta – 5
Ford Focus – 19
Ford Mondeo – 0
Ford Mustang – 117
Ford Puma – 167
Ford Ranger 4x2 – 217
Ford Ranger 4x4 – 2743
Ford Transit Bus – 3
Ford Transit Custom – 274
Ford Transit Heavy – 85
Ford Total – 4245

Nissan Patrol up 94% YTD -
https://www.carexpert.com.au/car-new...s-sales-record

Tesla Model 3 Number 1 passenger car -
https://www.carexpert.com.au/car-new...orolla-and-i30

[kypez]

Will be interesting once the new model Ranger and Everest hit the market. Can't come soon enough for some though.

Funny result for Tesla given no one wants EVs... According to many here. Rather inconvenient Truth there.

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[Vesper Martini]

Originally Posted by kypez

Funny result for Tesla given no one wants EVs... According to many here. Rather inconvenient Truth there.

who said that? and why does every post have to turn into an EV Promo?

PS I think we all know car sales figures are all askew atm.

Hilux double Ranger which is down in 5th isn't the norm

[b0son]

Originally Posted by Vesper Martini

PS I think we all know car sales figures are all askew atm.

Even so... 3k units is what Ranger was moving in 2019-2020. It's a significant result. Arguably, 2021 sales for Ranger were an aberration as people went 'lifestyle crazy'. I'd be surprised if Ranger moves 4k/mth consistently once the new model novelty dies down, same happened to Mustang.

[Vesper Martini]

Originally Posted by b0son

Even so... 3k units is what Ranger was moving in 2019-2020. It's a significant result. Arguably, 2021 sales for Ranger were an aberration as people went 'lifestyle crazy'. I'd be surprised if Ranger moves 4k/mth consistently once the new model novelty dies down, same happened to Mustang.

Hilux has been Australia's No1 selling for some time, so why put Ranger sales down to people being "Lifestyle Crazy"

and this: "new model novelty dies down"

[b0son]

Originally Posted by Vesper Martini

Hilux has been Australia's No1 selling for some time, so why put Ranger sales down to people being "Lifestyle Crazy"

There was a 50% jump in units per month from 2020 to 2021. Around the same timing as a massive jump in caravan/camper sales. Coincidence?

and this: "new model novelty dies down"

You're the one trying to downplay the significance of Tesla's sales. They're on a par with what Ranger had been selling until Covid made buyers lose their senses.

3k per month is frankly astounding for a nation that 'doesnt have a use case for EV's'. I guess that means the Ranger was a crap performer before 2021?

[kypez]

Originally Posted by Vesper Martini

who said that? and why does every post have to turn into an EV Promo?



PS I think we all know car sales figures are all askew atm.



Hilux double Ranger which is down in 5th isn't the norm

Because I'd love for Ford to see the opportunity and bring the Mach E and Lightning here! And fast track the Ranger Lightning model.

I literally called out in the first sentence that numbers will be better once the new Ranger and Everest hit the market.

Lessons from history. Falcon was killing it in the B series. Fuel prices went up. People stopped buying them. EcoLPi and Ecoboost came but way too late. Even after the price of fuel dropped, people had moved on.

Fuel prices have gone up... Ford have a product that only appeals to those who are tax minimizing... Great opportunity to be first here. No reasonably priced EV SUV or dual cab outside of MG for SUV. Once the model Y hits the market, you might as well give up that segment.

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[Vesper Martini]

Originally Posted by kypez

Because I'd love for Ford to see the opportunity and bring the Mach E and Lightning here! And fast track the Ranger Lightning model.

I literally called out in the first sentence that numbers will be better once the new Ranger and Everest hit the market.

Lessons from history. Falcon was killing it in the B series. Fuel prices went up. People stopped buying them. EcoLPi and Ecoboost came but way too late. Even after the price of fuel dropped, people had moved on.

Fuel prices have gone up... Ford have a product that only appeals to those who are tax minimizing... Great opportunity to be first here. No reasonably priced EV SUV or dual cab outside of MG for SUV. Once the model Y hits the market, you might as well give up that segment.

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Mach E & Lightning will make it here.. but not with current supply demands on more lucrative markets than ours.

People didn't stop buying Falcons due to Petrol prices.
Ranger appeals to more than those who are tax minimizing


but none of this is what I asked.

[kypez]

Originally Posted by Vesper Martini

Mach E & Lightning will make it here.. but not with current supply demands on more lucrative markets than ours.



People didn't stop buying Falcons due to Petrol prices.

Ranger appeals to more than those who are tax minimizing





but none of this is what I asked.

To answer your question, it's been said by many in numerous threads that EVs equal some kind of Satan worship.

Why can't we talk EVs when there is one in the Vfacts. Would you rather talk about the boring Hilux or the others vanilla cars make it into the top. The Ford result is hamstrung by supply but they could "Go Further" ahead of the competition with EVs IMO.

Model Y books open in the next few weeks. Let's see if Ford missed the party with the Mach E locally.

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[Sprintey]

Tesla being officially on the board with 3067 is massive, great result for them.

And - a sedan back in the top 10 - who would've ever thought?!

Originally Posted by kypez

Ford have a product that only appeals to those who are tax minimizing...

I do wonder what the sales of these things would be without the tax writeoffs...

[Franco Cozzo]

Originally Posted by Sprintey

Tesla being officially on the board with 3067 is massive, great result for them.

And - a sedan back in the top 10 - who would've ever thought?!






I do wonder what the sales of these things would be without the tax writeoffs...

But no one wants sedans...............

[Sprintey]

Originally Posted by kypez

Great opportunity to be first here. No reasonably priced EV SUV or dual cab outside of MG for SUV. Once the model Y hits the market, you might as well give up that segment.

Yeah, I wonder about that. This is going to be a huge shift, and if someone else comes in and steals that segment, no matter how new the brand, I don't think decades of history will amount to much. Huge changes ahead. There might be a bit of this with Jag just going full electric within a couple of years - launch early and hope to be around afterward.

[Bossxr8]

Originally Posted by kypez

Will be interesting once the new model Ranger and Everest hit the market. Can't come soon enough for some though.

Funny result for Tesla given no one wants EVs... According to many here. Rather inconvenient Truth there.

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Turns out Tesla's numbers are from the whole year, not just march.

Do they ever tell the truth?

[kypez]

Originally Posted by Bossxr8

Turns out Tesla's numbers are from the whole year, not just march.



Do they ever tell the truth?

They aren't. 4417 is the yearly number. 3097 was March. Literally in the publications that says exactly that.

I'll await you accepting you got that wrong.

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[Dr Smith]

Originally Posted by kypez

They aren't. 4417 is the yearly number. 3097 was March. Literally in the publications that says exactly that.

I'll await you accepting you got that wrong.

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Seems odd to have a ytd of 4417 and March alone of 3097

[kypez]

Originally Posted by Dr Smith

Seems odd to have a ytd of 4417 and March alone of 3097

Not really. We are a tiny market for them. They sold 300,000 plus cars in Q1 and 4000 odd in Australia. We don't get a steady supply because most of the production is skewed to the Chinese market. They do our orders in batches so some months will have multiple ships arrive and others will only have 1 ship arrive.

If we were LHD, it might've been better but can't beat Chinese demand.

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[jpd80]

Originally Posted by Dr Smith

Seems odd to have a ytd of 4417 and March alone of 3097

No it’s not, think about it……
This is not “sales”, it’s two ships arriving in the same month and delivering already sold cars to buyers.
Tesla is up to nine months wait on vehicles, they need to start ramping up deliveries and start offering the Y,
that would really get sales going…..

By my estimate, Tesla sales have increased 50% this year and that’s only with the 3.
A second gigafactory is being built in China to produce the Y, maybe 12 months away..

[Fordman1]

Originally Posted by Bossxr8

Turns out Tesla's numbers are from the whole year, not just march.

Do they ever tell the truth?

You’re right, it’s YTD

[Franco Cozzo]

No MG this month in the top 10 and Tesla suddenly in the top 10 taking 5th position with the Model 3 - well paint me black and call me Kunta Kinte.

[cycle myth]

I understand this is the first time Tesla have reported and there may be some prior months results as catch up for the year.

[kypez]

Originally Posted by cycle myth

I understand this is the first time Tesla have reported and there may be some prior months results as catch up for the year.

No, not the first time per say. They gave yearly totals last year. And they have only provided 1 month data for this VFact. YTD totals are different and are not included (after the Tesla guys got it wrong when they first reported numbers).

It's actually covered in the article that it is accurate and doesn't include previous months.

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[Bossxr8]

Semi-conductor shortages hitting Thai production fairly hard. It had to catch up to them at some point. Going to be an on going thing for the first half of the year. Opens right up in the 2nd half.

Order books are full, just can't get the cars built.

[Bossxr8]

Sales and orders aren't off, the order backlog is getting longer. It's supply that is the problem now.

Why are people suddenly suggesting that demand has dropped. If anything, the new model, which has just gone into production, has increased demand.

Won't be till the second half that it picks back up.

[HSVKILLA]

over 2000 rangers were sold here in Nz(march).

[DTFRMONT]

Got the job of looking at cars for my Auntie, changeover time for her. She's a nun & the order changes over their cars at 90,000kms. She currently drives a Corolla, she's not keen on a Yaris. We suggested a Kia Stonic. Local Kia dealer had a couple available for May delivery (this was a few weeks back). Went to the Toyota dealer to check out a Yaris Cross for comparison. Nothing in the passenger range on show, only Hiluxes or Cruisers on show. Was told 6-12 month wait for anything in the Yaris/Corolla/Camry ranges. Checked out the Ford Puma, nice but a little more than what the budget allowed. But no issues with availability from Ford. A friend has just signed a contract for a Kia Seltos. Was told she'll be lucky if she gets it this side of Christmas. Interesting times..

With brands such as Jag going fully EV, don't be suprised if all the Euro brands go full EV, or at least EV/hybrid in the next couple of years, with the push to wean Europe off Russian oil.

[hayseed]

it's a good result for Tesla, Full marks to them.. However..
They're a long way from being a a mainstream contender (as is the EV segment).....!!

so far this year 6752 electric vehicles have been reported as sold in Australia, or 2.6 per cent of the 262,436 new motor vehicles delivered in the first three months of 2022.

https://www.drive.com.au/news/vfacts...ts-the-brakes/

[outback_ute]

The Tesla number of 3097 would appear an aberration, compared to 4417 YTD and 12k-odd all last year.

[csv8]

My local Mitsi dealer said "its only a month, wait for Pajero Sport. 3 coming in May." and apparently, Nissan has caught up with Patrol orders? Who knows what the real story is on shortage.

[Dr Smith]

Originally Posted by csv8

My local Mitsi dealer said "its only a month, wait for Pajero Sport. 3 coming in May." and apparently, Nissan has caught up with Patrol orders? Who knows what the real story is on shortage.

Maybe it’s like my situation. Ordered 2 containers of material for start of Feb and mid March back in Dec’21. Got nothing in Feb and nothing was coming in March according to supplier and then both containers arrive late March stuffing up our storage space.

[jpd80]

So if PX3 production ended last month, will we start seeing new models later this month?