January 2006 new cars sales

[Falcon Freak]

Well the first sales month of this year has finished earlier today and the numbers will be tallied over the next few days. Anybody care to make any predictions/guesses before the official vFacts data is released?

FF

[MoreHPformyXR6]

[QUOTE=Falcon Freak]Well the first sales month of this year has finished earlier today and the numbers will be tallied over the next few days. Anybody care to make any predictions/guesses before the official vFacts data is released?

My prediction/guess
1) Holden Commodore 4799 units
2) Toyota Corolla 4721
3) Ford Falcon 3984

Originally Posted by MoreHPformyXR6

My prediction/guess
1) Holden Commodore 4799 units
2) Toyota Corolla 4721
3) Ford Falcon 3984

I'd say they will all be less. It's been a slowish month. :

[Falcon Freak]

Can't give away new cars to last weeks division 1 lottery wins type bad?

FF

[Paxton]

Mitsubishi 380 <1,000.

Its a shame, because it is a nice car to drive, and I would be happy to own one.

[buickman]

Originally Posted by Paxton

Mitsubishi 380 <1,000.

Its a shame, because it is a nice car to drive, and I would be happy to own one.

The mitsibishi dealer down the road has had a Gold & blue one on display since before Xmas they have not moved. Plus I've encounted very few on the roads.I probley would go Holden 1st as being a rear wheel large car over the 380.

[Donut King]

Toyota gained the top sales position in the January monthly market with 14,383 vehicle sales, ahead of Holden with 11,503 and Ford third with 7,435. Toyota, with a market share of 20.5%, starts the year as market leader. Holden's January result sees it in second position with a market share of 16.4%, with Ford's market share of 10.6% placing it third. Mazda, with sales of 5,384 and with a market share of 7.7%, hold fourth position. Honda achieved 4,751 vehicle sales in January and with a share of 6.8%, is in fifth place ahead of Nissan, on 5.8% market share.

[Donut King]

further digging puts locally manufactured cars at the following:
holden: 5541
ford: 4776
toyota: 2153
mitsubishi: 815

things still not looking good for the 380...

[PETE_XR6]

I think it's going to be a tough year and i hate to say it but Mitsubishi's won't last much longer if sales don't pick up

http://www.theage.com.au/news/busine...reject-aussie-
cars/2006/02/03/1138836409193.html

Sales of Australian-made cars have slumped as the shift towards smaller vehicles continued in January.

After Mitsubishi's move to cut 250 jobs in Adelaide in a response to disappointing demand, official auto industry sales figures today showed demand for Australian built vehicles fell 20 per cent last month.

The slide came in a total market which rose 0.4 per cent as the shift towards smaller, more fuel efficient, cars continued.

The Federal Chamber of Automotive Industries (FCAI) said today 13,285 locally made vehicles were retailed last month compared to 16,648 in January last.

At the same time demand for imports jumped from 53,065 to 56,718.

The FCAI said the total market was up from 69,713 in January last year to 70,003 last month.

The result prompted the chamber to set the full year market forecast at 980,000 vehicles, just below last year's record 988,269.

FCAI chief executive Peter Sturrock said the trend towards smaller cars, which emerged last year, had continued in January.

"Last year the significant growth was in the small car segment and now it appears the light car segment is benefiting from the same downsizing sentiment among consumers," Mr Sturrock said.

"We're off to a good start in 2006 after four years of strong and sustained growth.

"The rate of growth in January is a good guide to the realistic expectation of the industry in 2006."

But the industry will be hoping for a turnaround for local car makers.

Sales of Ford's Australian-made vehicles fell 23 per cent last month, for Holden the dip was 14 per cent, for Mitsubishi 20 per cent and for Toyota 27 per cent with its result made to look worse by a decision to temporarily stop production of the Avalon large car last year.

Significantly Mitsubishi could only find 719 buyers for its new 380 sedan in January, well below the 2,500 it was hoping for each month.

Demand for Ford's Territory crossover car also appeared to have peaked with sales down almost 25 per cent.

Overall, Toyota was the top selling car company last month with 14,383 units, ahead of Holden on 11,503 and Ford on 7,435.

Mazda did best among the importers with 5,384 units while Mitsubishi slumped to eighth place, outsold by Mazda, Honda, Nissan and Hyundai.

Despite a slide in demand for its locally built vehicles, Holden still had the top selling car in January with Commodore sales hitting 3,551 compared to 3,212 for the Toyota Corolla and 2,630 for the Mazda 3.

Other leading sellers were the Ford Falcon (2,621), the Toyota Camry (2,142), the Hyundai Getz (1,906), the Toyota Yaris (1,833), the Holden Astra (1,767), the Honda CRV (1,501) and the Honda Accord (1,407).

The top selling cars and car companies in Australia in January.

Cars:

Holden Commodore 3,551

Toyota Corolla 3,212

Mazda 3 2,630

Ford Falcon 2,621

Toyota Camry 2,142

Hyundai Getz 1,906

Toyota Yaris 1,833

Holden Astra 1,767

Honda CRV 1,501

Honda Accord 1,407

Companies:

Toyota 14,383

Holdan 11,503

Ford 7,435

Mazda 5,384

Honda 4,751

Nissan 4,065

Hyundai 3,595

Mitsubishi 3,592

Subaru 2,711

Kia 1,562

- AAP

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I think these figures reflect how retail sales would be. Both Ford and Holden will struggle without the fleets. Heck Mazda3 outsold Falcon, and Corolla may even catch Commodore.

[HLC]

Originally Posted by RATT

I think these figures reflect how retail sales would be. Both Ford and Holden will struggle without the fleets. Heck Mazda3 outsold Falcon, and Corolla may even catch Commodore.

METALLICA!!!! :sm_headba

[Polyal]

and people still buy commy's...why!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Damn you Dave Hughes!

[gmhdriver]

2621, that's got to be the lowest monthly sales figure in the falcon's history, although admittedly January is traditionally a slow month.

[Falcon Freak]

Originally Posted by Polyal

and people still buy commy's...why!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Damn you Dave Hughes!

I agree. Most journalists put the BF ahead of the VZ yet the car buying public keep buying VZs. I believe if you put the Holden badge on a piece of turd the average Aussie ocker would still buy one as 'it is Australian mate!" I really question the intelligence of these people.

As to the local industry, as a whole it was 20% down on January 2005 while imports grew significantly. Less than 1 in 5 cars sold last month were manufactured locally. A very bad sign.

RATT - what is the public interest in the e-gas option like? Do you get many enquires or sell many dedicated LPG vehicles? Is the demand increasing for these vehicles?

FF

[Bossxr8]

Originally Posted by Falcon Freak

I agree. Most journalists put the BF ahead of the VZ yet the car buying public keep buying VZs. I believe if you put the Holden badge on a piece of turd the average Aussie ocker would still buy one as 'it is Australian mate!" I really question the intelligence of these people.

As to the local industry, as a whole it was 20% down on January 2005 while imports grew significantly. Less than 1 in 5 cars sold last month were manufactured locally. A very bad sign.

RATT - what is the public interest in the e-gas option like? Do you get many enquires or sell many dedicated LPG vehicles? Is the demand increasing for these vehicles?

FF

Demand has increased massively for E Gas vehicles. At least doubled, maybe even tripled.

[Falcon Freak]

Originally Posted by Bossxr8

Demand has increased massively for E Gas vehicles. At least doubled, maybe even tripled.

Well Ford should offer this option on more models, not just the poverty pack Falcons.

FF

[Bossxr8]

Originally Posted by Falcon Freak

Well Ford should offer this option on more models, not just the poverty pack Falcons.

FF

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[gmhdriver]

Originally Posted by Falcon Freak

I agree. Most journalists put the BF ahead of the VZ yet the car buying public keep buying VZs.

How many people actually read these views? And most that to probably take them for a grain of salt anyway. I don't disagree with the BF being judged ahead of the VZ in some areas, I just think the difference is not as large as it is made out to be.

Originally Posted by Falcon Freak

I believe if you put the Holden badge on a piece of turd the average Aussie ocker would still buy one as 'it is Australian mate!" I really question the intelligence of these people.

I seriously doubt that this has anything to do with it at all, it is more of a perception that anything else. For people that are after a large sedan with value for money, Holden and Ford are the first choice. I doubt that what you are implying even crosses most Commodore buyers minds..
I think what it comes down to is many satisfied Commodore owners coming back to buy another one when it's time to upgrade.

[Deadman]

Originally Posted by gmhdriver

I don't disagree with the BF being judged ahead of the VZ in some areas, I just think the difference is not as large as it is made out to be.

Some areas? Pretty much every area

[Bossxr8]

How can Mitsubishi survive. They said in the paper today they will just try to ride out the storm, but in reality they are so far away from their target they would be losing millions every month. You can't sell less than half of your break even point and survive for very long at all. Not discounting is going to kill them in the short term as Ford and Holden are discounting the ИИИИ out of their cars, Mitsubishi can't compete as they are already overpriced and reluctant to discount. What can they do, surely they are doomed.

[ltd]

Originally Posted by gmhdriver

How many people actually read these views? And most that to probably take them for a grain of salt anyway. I don't disagree with the BF being judged ahead of the VZ in some areas, I just think the difference is not as large as it is made out to be.



I seriously doubt that this has anything to do with it at all, it is more of a perception that anything else. For people that are after a large sedan with value for money, Holden and Ford are the first choice. I doubt that what you are implying even crosses most Commodore buyers minds..
I think what it comes down to is many satisfied Commodore owners coming back to buy another one when it's time to upgrade.

Nah, I think it might have more to do with the massive discounts Holden are offering at the moment. We might see a shift when the VE comes out as Holden won't be at the end of the platform cycle and will thus not be able to discount as much. Ford can't discount on the BF at the moment because they have to recoup their costs on the BF upgrade, as well as they are a new customer to ZF, and are unlikely to receive serious discounts. Perhaps on the BF2 when they make the ZF standard across more of the range ZF may give them a better discount based on volume, and allow a little wiggle room in pricing and or equipment.

Holden will be in the same position in terms of pricing as ford is now once the VE comes out; that is they won't have much room for discounts.

I should add that you can say what you like about Holden and Ford, but at the end of the day they are businesses and as such will pull out all the stops to sell the superseded model/s. Holden marketing are very clever, as they have tapped into the patriotic emotion and have also bombarded the media with advertising. Maybe ford should take a lesson here from the obvious professionals at marketing.

[Falcon Freak]

Originally Posted by ltd

Perhaps on the BF2 when they make the ZF standard across more of the range ZF may give them a better discount based on volume, and allow a little wiggle room in pricing and or equipment.

The ZF 6 speed is too expensive to be fitted to the poverty pack models.

FF

Originally Posted by Falcon Freak

I
RATT - what is the public interest in the e-gas option like? Do you get many enquires or sell many dedicated LPG vehicles? Is the demand increasing for these vehicles?

FF

Demand for e-gas, as well as enquiries on how it will benifit customers has gone up.

A typical example is a customer of mine that usually buys 4cyl Hilux cab chassis utes, bought a Falcon XL C/C e-gas ute, and will replace all their Hilux's with e-gas XL utes. His first one was ordered in October, and arrived in early January (Dec/05 build).

[Falcon Freak]

Originally Posted by RATT

Demand for e-gas, as well as enquiries on how it will benifit customers has gone up.

A typical example is a customer of mine that usually buys 4cyl Hilux cab chassis utes, bought a Falcon XL C/C e-gas ute, and will replace all their Hilux's with e-gas XL utes. His first one was ordered in October, and arrived in early January (Dec/05 build).

That is good. I spoke to one of the Ford engineers recently who told me that Ford Australia is building almost 100 cars per day fitted with the E-gas engine. 12 months ago this figure was only approximately 20 per day.

With this increased demand, what is the lead time for ordering an E-gas equipped car? I heard that dealers don't usually hold these vehicles in stock so they are only built to order.

FF

Originally Posted by Falcon Freak

That is good. I spoke to one of the Ford engineers recently who told me that Ford Australia is building almost 100 cars per day fitted with the E-gas engine. 12 months ago this figure was only approximately 20 per day.

With this increased demand, what is the lead time for ordering an E-gas equipped car? I heard that dealers don't usually hold these vehicles in stock so they are only built to order.

FF

Certainly good. As is NRMA's decision to replace existing roadside assistance utes with e-gas Falcon XL utes (in NSW atleast).

Regarding Focus sales, when it was launched supply was a big issue hence the low volume compared to Corolla etc. Mazda had the same problem with the 3, but look at it now. Consistantly it sells over 2000 units a month. Focus has this potential as well and should do so so long as supply is there.

Fiesta is now a much better value car and it should also do better this year.

I just hope Falcon passenger/ commercial vehicles and Territory pick up again. Their decline is not just the result of fuel prices. 15yrs ago a Focus sized hatch/sedan was priced in the low $20's, while Falcon was generally mid $20's onwards so the gap was small, hence why Falcon sold well back then. Now the gap is atleast $10000 at the retail price level, and at the same time small cars have grown in size as well without being anymore expensive than 15 years ago, not to mention air cond. , airbags, CD player etc being standard as well.

[BOSS 540]

Im doing my bloody bit for FORD sales so far this year, a new Territory in Jan and a BF XR6 for work coming this month!. RATT you owe me at least a full tank of 100 octane!!lol..

[SUVshopper]

Just 717 380s were sold last month.
25% less Territory were sold compared to Dec '05.
Anyone has the exact Territory sales figure?

[Deadman]

Originally Posted by SUVshopper

Anyone has the exact Territory sales figure?

Also, anyone got the FPV vs HSV figures?

[csv8]

Ford should offer dual fuel like Holden does. Holden had 400 sales a month planned for dual fuel dunnydores but sales are up and from March 1800 a month or to be built.
Cars Guide 01/02/2006

[vztrt]

Originally Posted by csv8

Ford should offer dual fuel like Holden does. Holden had 400 sales a month planned for dual fuel dunnydores but sales are up and from March 1800 a month or to be built.
Cars Guide 01/02/2006

Monthly sales vary each month. I'd be more worried with the fact that sales were down 25% this time last year. The Territory is the only Australian manufactured vehicle that is actually makes a profit. The Falcon breaks even and I believe that the Commodore is losing money at the moment because of their heavy discounting.

Originally Posted by Falcon Freak

Focus - 1,333 (1,122)

FF

The Focus is getting better and better. This car is a money maker for Ford but the problem is they cant get enough of them in the country.