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Old 01-01-2005, 09:29 PM   #1
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Default Casper Graphs...who said a VCT has no power?

Well, after all the stuff that has happened to my car over the last 18 months I thought it would be interesting to take the dyno graphs I had and compare them on one page to see the changes.
I plotted them all out and, with excel, added them to a graph. Actually very interesting. One thing that amused me is that now the latest power curve STARTS almost 10rwkw MORE than the original peak power with the dead MAP. Anyhow, I thought it was interesting.

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Shite thats some BIG inceases there ghost.......
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Well, the blue line is with a dead Map and running a 10-1 A/F ratio, massive rich.
Purple is with the Unichip for the challenge and is closer to the stock figures. The next too are a huge jump with the exhaust and intake then the chip on top. All up, nothing in the head or engine has been changed, simply bolt on stuff.
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Its definately a nice increase over stock.

Off topic : In another week and a bit I hope to be dev 5 cammed. I can't wait.
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what did you do to the exhaust??

my chart is very similar to the purple one..
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what did you do to the exhaust??

my chart is very similar to the purple one..
JMM race headers and 2.5" redback cat back.
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Im getting very keen...

very keeeeen,
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It feels like a different car. Goes a lot quicker now.
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Nah thats a great effort Casper...

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I bet it does...
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lol, some one has to do it.... just wait till winter, I plan to remove that annoying 0.024.
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lol, some one has to do it.... just wait till winter, I plan to remove that annoying 0.024.
Amaziiiing figures really, to get a 42% increase in power with these mods is excellent. And just shows you dont have to spend huge $$$ to get a I6 movin.
good work! How much is the chip fitted and tuned?
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Amaziiiing figures really, to get a 42% increase in power with these mods is excellent. And just shows you dont have to spend huge $$$ to get a I6 movin.
good work! How much is the chip fitted and tuned?
The Chip is $595 plus about $50 for fitting at a local distributer. I havent even had it custom tuned yet, its just a tune Lachlan did from the info I provided, still a little more in it when its custom tuned (another $200 or so). Well worth every cent too.

The VCT has an agressive cam as stock so that helps a bit too. Overall I cant complain, I think its a pretty good result for an auto.
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The Chip is $595 plus about $50 for fitting at a local distributer. I havent even had it custom tuned yet, its just a tune Lachlan did from the info I provided, still a little more in it when its custom tuned (another $200 or so). Well worth every cent too.

The VCT has an agressive cam as stock so that helps a bit too. Overall I cant complain, I think its a pretty good result for an auto.
Any idea what sort of ET and rwkw you will get once the dev5 cam is installed?
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Casper - if you can get down to 14.5 in a VCT 6 without pulling the motor apart, i for one will be bloody amazed.

now, how much is the chiptorque chip for the V8's. If it's around the same money and gets a similar result, I think I'm up for one of them. Do they do lay-buys?
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Casper - if you can get down to 14.5 in a VCT 6 without pulling the motor apart, i for one will be bloody amazed.

now, how much is the chiptorque chip for the V8's. If it's around the same money and gets a similar result, I think I'm up for one of them. Do they do lay-buys?
Hehehehehe, prepare to be amazed by the end of the year JC. I'll get damn close to it I suspect.
As for the Chiptorque, well, it can do whatever the unichip can do and there some. Total cost is around $595 (chip) + $50 (fitting) + $200 (custome tuning) so your looking at $845 or there abouts. Certainly less than $1000 for the whole shebang, but no laybuy. :
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Thanks Casper - I found your link to their site earlier in the thread and clicked on it. I couldn't buy the chip (even though I added it to my shopping cart), so I e-mailed them with my mods, and am waiting for them to get back to me.

I'm very interested in doing this though, as the V8s tend to run pretty rich in standard tune as well, so leaning the mixture out a fraction should provide a bit more oompf.
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Thanks Casper - I found your link to their site earlier in the thread and clicked on it. I couldn't buy the chip (even though I added it to my shopping cart), so I e-mailed them with my mods, and am waiting for them to get back to me.

I'm very interested in doing this though, as the V8s tend to run pretty rich in standard tune as well, so leaning the mixture out a fraction should provide a bit more oompf.
Lachlan will look after you and he knows his stuff. I know Sylox has one on his and get a good bit of extra kw out of it. Now we are all waiting for Lachlan to sort out the torque tags so we can all have them removed as well :
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i would recomend chiptorque to do anywork, i have a custom HP4 chip in my NL *hides* and after a custom tune noticed a huge difference, and picked up quite a few missing Horses ended up with 192 at the treads, casper id be suprised if u wernt 205+ as the VCT is a very underrated engine with loads of potential.
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i would recomend chiptorque to do anywork, i have a custom HP4 chip in my NL *hides* and after a custom tune noticed a huge difference, and picked up quite a few missing Horses ended up with 192 at the treads, casper id be suprised if u wernt 205+ as the VCT is a very underrated engine with loads of potential.
Yeah, its hard to say whats at the engine but I'm guessing over 200kw now.
I'm not that fussed with rwkw stuff, I only use the dyno as a guage. The ET and MPH tells me what I want to know.

Seems funny now, 2 years ago the VCT was the "unmoddable slug" that no one took serious. Now it seems to have the opposite affect with people saying that cause its a VCT its got an unfair advantage over other stock cammed I6 engines. LOL, so long as it goes hard I'm happy.
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oh, and for those that havent heard it, a little sound file (1.2 meg) of the sound of the exhaust.
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oh, and for those that havent heard it, a little sound file (1.2 meg) of the sound of the exhaust.
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Sounds like it has no mufflers at all.
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Sounds like it has no mufflers at all.
1 redback muffler, 1 resonator.

That was taken about 2 foot from behind the exhaust.....and isnt really as clear as it could be. But yes, it is that loud. Silly thing is it has no real drone at all. I can cruise around quite quietly if I want.
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The XR has come a long way since you got the mod bug Casper, it must be a lot of fun to drive now.
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The XR has come a long way since you got the mod bug Casper, it must be a lot of fun to drive now.
Certainly is but I still have a few things left to do on it before I'm totally satisfied. Still, cant complain, it goes alright for a plain old XR6
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yeah I got a few more things left on my list aswell.. But now my exterior is finished..

Im just so stocked to be reading a post and to be shown actual evidence that it can be done... It was getting a little disheartening...

But I even noticed a change in the car getting rid of the the stock exhaust...
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Yep, it can be done. Quite cheaply too in comparison to some. I've seen some funny stuff go on in the last 18 months. The VCT has gone from "the slug grandpa's XR6 that was unmoddable" to "its an unfair advantage, the VCT has more technology" :
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What do you think that setup is good for Casper ? 160 rwks+????
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What do you think that setup is good for Casper ? 160 rwks+????
Already happened. A Series 3 manual with identical mods (no chip) pulled 160rwkw in November.

In and auto I'm pretty sure we can get a little more than 150 but not sure how much. Seems the AU3 VCT's had something different that gives them a tad more than the S1 VCT. Just got to find out what.

I'll be happy to see 155rwkw on mine. Hell, I'm happy with 150 but I know I can have a tad more advance on the chip programe so who knows.
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