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Old 23-12-2023, 12:49 AM   #33
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Default Re: Ineos Grenadier - interesting marketing concept

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Originally Posted by Franco Cozzo View Post
The part that made me chortle is Ineos had an opportunity to really jam it up the bum of Toyota with their 79 series, and they come in like $30K above the VDJ79

Its EXACTLY like Ford and the Mustang EV and Telsa Model Y.

$30K more for the new kid on the block without the established spare parts network and uses BMW engines, on a vehicle designed to be a rugged go-anywhere off-roader.

Out of all the engine choices available, why would you go with BMW over someone like Cummins for the diesel and Ford Godzilla/GM L8T for the unleaded.
It looks like the interior and driveline warrants a $30k premium over a 70 series.
Cummins too heavy and running ad blue and DPF, be no more rugged and bush ready than any other engine.
Parts availability is probably worse too especially in Europe

The big question will be if these are bought by posers like the original Defender G Wagen and Wranglers, to be driven around town.

As for the 70 series, have watched a few reviews and owners first impressions of the new ones, common theme is the Hilux engine and auto trans outperforms the V8 in the real world .
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