Ok everything is hooked up now and in my laser both the blue/red and blue/black wires coming from the dash are controlled by the lights. So as it is My CD player won't turn on without the lights being on.
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I even tried to splice the yellow wire (continuous current) into the car lighter but that ended in the same result, won't work without the lights on.
So I ended up having to route a wire direct from the positive battery terminal.
Just an fyi for anyone else who may be having this prob.